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Actually, Tea, it is a logical fallacy - i.e. one cannot prove scientifically that something never existed. One cannot prove lack of evidence. Which is why I go on and on that science cannot ever prove, or disprove the divine. And to restate my point. I was not making a claim either way whether...

In proportion to the number of believers, you can expect the number of under-educated believers increases. Doesn't the US have the highest number of believers among the developed countries? That means it has the highest number of the under-educated also. I don't mean to use the term...

More like a corrupt majority in the Supreme Court!

Which brings up the concept I question, PW. How many of the older religions were blatantly invented? Too much time has passed to know the true origins like we do with Scientology. How do we know, really, whether older religions are just as bogus?

Yep. Everything is turned upside down. The government's care for our Veterans is appalling, and they criticize anyone who says so, twisting it into harming our men & women in the armed forces.

Adept you are slipping. I actually understood what you just said!

The "War on Terror" was the brainchild of Dick Cheney. And everything Thomas said about the concept is the absolute truth. For our leaders in the U.S., who if fact work for Big Business, the concept is so vague, the requirements for victory so illusory that it need not ever end. Rather sets up...

Tea, now you are just pulling my chain. Bad Tea!

Are you implying that we should keep the answers to ourselves and never share them with others? There would be no worldwide learning. Therefore, your suggestion would not be a good one. No I was not suggesting that. And I agree that suggestion would not be a good one. I never said someone...

Not off topic at all. Very on topic as we are discussing a real world situation where someone gets to say their belief is right and everyone else is wrong. You did finally answer the question though, and for that I thank you.

So then, Dan, you agree with the statement that the owner of a company who is a Christian Scientist should have the right to force his religious beliefs on his employees and deny them health insurance. Because that is your opinion if your opinion on Hobby Lobby has not changed. I'm not asking...

And Thomas, I also fervently hope that 'done' does not mean gone. The site would be the poorer without you!

Just to make my point clear, I am not condemning either Wil or Thomas for their beliefs. Neither is completely right or wrong. I was simply pointing out that they have been bashing each other with the same arguments since before I joined the site! If they are having a good time doing so...

No the difference between names is that people can delude themselves into believing they are one of the above when they are really quite another. ISIS, ISUL, whatever we are currently calling them, they are terrorists and fundamentalist ultra-extremists. They can call themselves anything they...

So what if the owner of a different company is a Christian Scientist? That group does not believe in the use of medicine (with the exception of some obvious injury) at all. That owner then should have the right to refuse health insurance to their employees? According to the logic you are using...

I'm with Tea on this one. HCS, I have read this through several times and cannot make heads or tails of what your point is! Or how your hypothetical story ties in to the rest of your comments.

I wonder how many times the two of you are going to say the same things to each other over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Not that it matters to me. Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result...

Absolutely riveting Nick. The man shares his great granddad's talent for mesmerizing story telling. Passerby, It has always been of fascination to me how we choose to define our religions. Is it a religion? Or is it a cult. Point of view? Or is there more to it than that. Not that there is any...

Thomas, this news is hardly new. Nor confined only to modern times. Religions have constantly remade themselves, sometimes to the point of breaking from the main group, in order to justify their versions of WGW (What God Wants). I'll grant you that the modern habit of replacing theology with...

Wil, I have no idea what that statement means. Or its relevance to the OP. Anywho, Gibran is still much loved here in the states. Not so well known as he used to be. Which I am finding true of a great many authors who have been influential from this time period.