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Jane that is a brilliant commentary combining very up to date cosmology thematics with theological origin stories. The section about the similarity to the development of a child's brain is so often overlooked whenever someone is talking about this subject. Similar to the near death experience...

Marcialou said "When it comes to most things I am a determinist except for 1)quantum mechanics, where I am an indeterminist and 2)the human mind, where I am a proponent of free will." This is a very interesting set of opposites, Marcia. You believe that the universe is deterministic, with the...

Shibolet said "What makes me not too interested in what you call "latest advances in Science" is that no one so far has been able to tell me some thing that makes sense." No. No one has been able to tell you something that makes sense to you. Which would be a difficult chore to accomplish as...

I do not understand your comments. If all belief systems are wrong - what is right? I.E. what do you put in place rather than use a belief system? The act of having to maintain a belief system makes it false? Again I do not understand what you mean by that. Would you explain further?

In 22 of the 40 countries surveyed, the majority says it is necessary to believe in God in order to be a moral person. “This position] is highly prevalent, if not universal, in Africa and the Middle East,” says the report. They didn't skip the Muslim countries. The belief is so universal in...

Consumerist? How so?

Shibolet "You keep using that word 'logic'. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Oh I am SO glad someone bumped this up. Missed it the first time around. Went through quite a bit of browsing and no matter ethnicity, state, political view, education etc. almost all were very close to 90% that Jesus would not approve of modern Christianity. That IS AbSOlutely fascinating...

Okay Shib, I know this is pointless. What can I say. I'm a glutton for punishment. Your concept of logic is interesting to say the least. You start out with your conclusion. Matter cannot cause itself to exist. Why? Because it just cannot. Well that is certainly not very explanatory...

Still think you are missing the point, Wil. The results of the study show in which countries people believe a belief in God is required for good morals versus which countries people believe a belief in God is not required for good morals. Then comparing the ones believing the former and the...

When it comes to beliefs, particularly religious beliefs, there was, from my perspective, a strange aberration about people and their faiths. There were all these different belief systems, and each one was SURE they are right. And everyone of the other religious groups was wrong. About who or...

Marcia, Jane, thank you both for some very thoughtful and interesting input. I must do some pondering on your thoughts, and when I find my center (which interestingly enough involves my thoughts and my feelings finding a common ground) I will be responding to both of you. Soonest!

It does. Thank you very much!

I believe Tea is referring to this statement by me from another thread where I posit that matter might be able to cause itself to exist spontaneously. You never responded; or maybe you never saw it. This is the post Tea wanted you to reply to. And I am very interested in your answer as well! I...

Shib, Come on now, you are being a little silly here. All civilizations are born, rise, fall and die. It is the way of civilizations. All civilizations. It is only a matter of time. The statement that polytheism has lost its place in history is not valid either. There are still plenty of...

Whenever someone puts up a study, it is natural for a lot of people to respond with their own personal opinions. Which is fine, albeit besides the point. A study is a statistical analysis of some sort. Whether any one of us believes one way or the other does not address the point of the thread -...

Process of Theology: Theologist 1: "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Theologist 2: "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." Theologist 1: "You are wrong and I can prove it." Pulls out ancient text A1A. "See here it plainly says Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Theologist 2: "Yeah but what about...

Your statement that my statement is invalid, is invalid. More to come shortly!

I never said that theologians work differently than any other field. I said scientists work differently than any other field. In almost any field of study you can name, it comes down to opinions & power. Those with the most power tend to have the opinion that rules. Or the consensus that is...

Thomas. Theology is most certainly NOT a science! Again, what separates science from any other endeavor is the scientific method. If any group does not use the scientific method, what they are doing is not science. And it is impossible to use the scientific method when it comes to Gods and...