There are 3 "last days" in the bible

[soleil10]

1)The time of Noah were the last days, 2) Jesus' time was the last days and 3) we are again in the last days.

At the time of Noah, God wanted to end evil on earth. He kept one family but Ham's failure postponed His providence. Same at the time of Jesus, he came to end evil and etablish God's kingdom but he was rejected and killed. Once again we are waiting for the messiah's return. He will come as a thief in the night.

Since the human fall, God has been working incessantly for the same original purpose for which He created us waiting for our response.

I just realized that in the bible, there as been 3 periods called the last days. Jesus himself said "as in the time of Noah". How come I did not get it before ?

 

[mee]

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Jesus himself said "as in the time of Noah". How come I did not get it before ?

we are now living in what the bible calls the last days , the last days started in 1914 When Jesus recieved his kingship in the heavenly kingdom goverment
DANIEL 7;13-14
That was the time when Gods kingdom was set up and established in the heavens , Daniel 2;44 and ever since then, we have been living in the final part of the days.
yes Jesus compared the last days since 1914as just like the days of noah


matthew 24; 37-39


For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38 For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; 39 and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be




yes people go about their normal way of life but at the same time they take no note of what the bible says and they take no note of the GOODNEWS of the kingdom matthew 24;14



yes its all happening in the last days just as jesus foretold.

 

[soleil10]

we are now living in what the bible calls the last days , the last days started in 1914 When Jesus recieved his kingship in the heavenly kingdom goverment
DANIEL 7;13-14
That was the time when Gods kingdom was set up and established in the heavens , Daniel 2;44 and ever since then, we have been living in the final part of the days.
yes Jesus compared the last days since 1914as just like the days of noah

Mee, you keep repeating yourself speaking about 1914. It would be much more interesting if you would explain what you believe with clarity instead.

 

[mee]

Mee, you keep repeating yourself speaking about 1914. It would be much more interesting if you would explain what you believe with clarity instead.

yes i do keep repeating about 1914 because that date is a very significant date when it comes to bible prophecy and chronology.
And that date has great meaning when it comes to Jesus and his kingship in the heavenly kingdom. But as Jesus said , people take no note

 

[soleil10]

yes i do keep repeating about 1914 because that date is a very significant date when it comes to bible prophecy and chronology.
And that date has great meaning when it comes to Jesus and his kingship in the heavenly kingdom. But as Jesus said , people take no note

Once again, you refuse to explain

Bible prophecy ?

Chronology ?

and then you write "As Jesus said, people take no note"

 

[citizenzen]

I just Googled it...


Jehovah`s Witness - 1914
Expert: Brother Rando - 10/12/2008

Question
I just don't understand the references to 1914.  I have only been studying a short time, and would like to know more. My limited knowledge is that Satan was cast down to earth in 1914.  Please explain more.  Thank you.

Answer
This Prophecy was revealed to my Brothers in the late 1800's. The world rejected it then and rejected it today even after the signs that Jesus spoke about occurred.

Jehovah reveals his intentions to his people so they are not caught unawares .  Therefore, the time of the gentiles was revealed well in advance.

October 1914 is the date you are referring too.  One of the secrets revealed is how to calculate the years.  BCE "Before Common Era or Error" the years where calculated by 360 days NOT 365.


How, then, is the time calculated down to 1914? Counting 2,520 years from early October of 607 B.C.E. brings us to early October of 1914 C.E., as shown on the chart.

CALCULATING THE "SEVEN TIMES"

"Seven times" = 7 X 360 = 2,520 years

A Biblical "time," or year = 12 X 30 days = 360. (Rev. 11:2, 3; 12:6, 14)

In the fulfillment of the "seven times" each day equals one year. (Ezek. 4:6; Num. 14:34)

Early October, 607 B.C.E., to December 31, 607 B.C.E. = 1/4 year

January 1, 606 B.C.E., to December 31, 1 B.C.E. = 606 years

January 1, 1 C.E., to December 31, 1913 = 1,913 years

January 1, 1914, to early October, 1914 = 3/4 year

Total: 2,520 years

What happened at that time? Jehovah entrusted rulership over mankind to his own Son, Jesus Christ, glorified in the heavens.-Dan. 7:13, 14.

Then why is there still so much wickedness on earth? After Christ was enthroned, Satan and his demons were hurled out of heaven and down to the earth. (Rev. 12:12) Christ as King did not immediately proceed to destroy all who refused to acknowledge Jehovah's sovereignty and himself as the Messiah. Instead, as he had foretold, a global preaching work was to be done. (Matt. 24:14) As King he would direct a dividing of peoples of all nations, those proving to be righteous being granted the prospect of everlasting life, and the wicked being consigned to everlasting cutting-off in death. (Matt. 25:31-46) In the meantime, the very difficult conditions foretold for "the last days" would prevail. As shown under the heading "Last Days," those events have been clearly in evidence since 1914. Before the last members of the generation that was alive in 1914 will have passed off the scene, all the things foretold will occur, including the "great tribulation" in which the present wicked world will end.-Matt. 24:21, 22, 34.


Read the article at
Jehovah`s Witness: 1914 war in heaven, war in heaven, bible students


"But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."

Jehovah Witnesses are the ONLY ONES sharing this good news about God's Kingdom.  Yet, the world and false Christians alike have rejected Christ as in Ruling in the Heavens today.

 

[citizenzen]

Just remember kids... you can't spell "Googled" without G-o-d.

 

[winner08]

1)The time of Noah were the last days, 2) Jesus' time was the last days and 3) we are again in the last days.

At the time of Noah, God wanted to end evil on earth. He kept one family but Ham's failure postponed His providence. Same at the time of Jesus, he came to end evil and etablish God's kingdom but he was rejected and killed. Once again we are waiting for the messiah's return. He will come as a thief in the night.

Since the human fall, God has been working incessantly for the same original purpose for which He created us waiting for our response.

I just realized that in the bible, there as been 3 periods called the last days. Jesus himself said "as in the time of Noah". How come I did not get it before ?

where is that scripture that says God wanted to end evil in the word?? Nowhere. If God wanted to end evil in the world wouldn't you think that He(God) has the power to do just that? You don't give God much credit.

Once again you speak unscriptureal falsehoods. where is that scripture that says Jesus came to end evil? and establish God's kingdom? Jesus did not come to wipe out evil. Nor did He come to establish Gods Kingdom here on earth at that time. Do you read the scriptures at all?? I adked you many times to produce some scriptures to back up your beliefs but you fail to do so. That's because there are no scriptures to back your beliefs. If Jesus came here to wipe out evil, and If God wanted to wipe out evil how is then we still have evil.? Jesus and the Lord have more power than Satan ever did or does. The demons flea from the name of Jesus Christ. Satan can do nothing without the consent from the Lord. Like I said you just don't give God enough credit. You must not think the Lord has any power over evil, over satan. When you make statements like that where you say Jesus came to wipe out evil and God wanted to end evil. You do a very large disservice to other readers especially if they are new to the Word of God when you don't produce scriptures to back your statements up. when you produce scriptures to back your statements up it gives credibility to your statements.. I love to see scriptures backing up statements it just proves to me that the statements are ture and backed by the word of God. Scriptures carry alot of weight. Like I said I am mainly concerned if they are any newbies here.They see you produce many posts and you sound like you know what yhour talking about, but yet most of the stuff you say are unscriptural and are false. You have no scriptures to back you up. If you produce any scriptures showing me where the Lord wanted to wipe out evil when He flooded the earth or show me a scripture where Jesus came to wipe out evil I will apoligize and eat crow. it would not be the first time.

Darren

 

[soleil10]

I just Googled it...
Jehovah`s Witness - 1914
Expert: Brother Rando - 10/12/2008

Question
I just don't understand the references to 1914. I have only been studying a short time, and would like to know more. My limited knowledge is that Satan was cast down to earth in 1914. Please explain more. Thank you.

Answer
This Prophecy was revealed to my Brothers in the late 1800's. The world rejected it then and rejected it today even after the signs that Jesus spoke about occurred.

Jehovah reveals his intentions to his people so they are not caught unawares . Therefore, the time of the gentiles was revealed well in advance.

October 1914 is the date you are referring too. One of the secrets revealed is how to calculate the years. BCE "Before Common Era or Error" the years where calculated by 360 days NOT 365.


How, then, is the time calculated down to 1914? Counting 2,520 years from early October of 607 B.C.E. brings us to early October of 1914 C.E., as shown on the chart.

CALCULATING THE "SEVEN TIMES"

"Seven times" = 7 X 360 = 2,520 years

A Biblical "time," or year = 12 X 30 days = 360. (Rev. 11:2, 3; 12:6, 14)

In the fulfillment of the "seven times" each day equals one year. (Ezek. 4:6; Num. 14:34)

Early October, 607 B.C.E., to December 31, 607 B.C.E. = 1/4 year

January 1, 606 B.C.E., to December 31, 1 B.C.E. = 606 years

January 1, 1 C.E., to December 31, 1913 = 1,913 years

January 1, 1914, to early October, 1914 = 3/4 year

Total: 2,520 years

What happened at that time? Jehovah entrusted rulership over mankind to his own Son, Jesus Christ, glorified in the heavens.-Dan. 7:13, 14.

Then why is there still so much wickedness on earth? After Christ was enthroned, Satan and his demons were hurled out of heaven and down to the earth. (Rev. 12:12) Christ as King did not immediately proceed to destroy all who refused to acknowledge Jehovah's sovereignty and himself as the Messiah. Instead, as he had foretold, a global preaching work was to be done. (Matt. 24:14) As King he would direct a dividing of peoples of all nations, those proving to be righteous being granted the prospect of everlasting life, and the wicked being consigned to everlasting cutting-off in death. (Matt. 25:31-46) In the meantime, the very difficult conditions foretold for "the last days" would prevail. As shown under the heading "Last Days," those events have been clearly in evidence since 1914. Before the last members of the generation that was alive in 1914 will have passed off the scene, all the things foretold will occur, including the "great tribulation" in which the present wicked world will end.-Matt. 24:21, 22, 34.
Read the article at
Jehovah`s Witness: 1914 war in heaven, war in heaven, bible students

"But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."

Jehovah Witnesses are the ONLY ONES sharing this good news about God's Kingdom. Yet, the world and false Christians alike have rejected Christ as in Ruling in the Heavens today.

Citizen, thanks. I was going to google it too but I wanted to know Mee's. answer in case it is different.

 

[citizenzen]

...I wanted to know Mee's. answer in case it is different.

Fundies usually stick pretty close to the script.

 

[winner08]

Citizen, thanks. I was going to google it too but I wanted to know Mee's. answer in case it is different.

Has anyone thought why the JWs are the ONLY ones that believe this stuff?? Has anyone thought why the rest of the world rejects their beliefs?? could it be that they have not a clue as to what it all means?? Or maby they are right on the money and it is the rest of us who do not have a clue.

Darren

 

[citizenzen]

Has anyone thought why the JWs are the ONLY ones that believe this stuff?? Has anyone thought why the rest of the world rejects their beliefs?? could it be that they have not a clue as to what it all means?? Or maby they are right on the money and it is the rest of us who do not have a clue.

Darren

Darren, as an atheist/agnostic/non-theist I could ask the very same questions about your faith. It's very easy to disregard another's beliefs. I've found it best to accept that what others choose to believe as the right choice for them.

 

[soleil10]

where is that scripture that says God wanted to end evil in the word?? Nowhere. If God wanted to end evil in the world wouldn't you think that He(God) has the power to do just that? You don't give God much credit.

Why do we need a Messiah ? Why is God sending a Messiah ? Why do we need to be saved and cleansed ?

Once again you speak unscriptureal falsehoods. where is that scripture that says Jesus came to end evil? and establish God's kingdom? Jesus did not come to wipe out evil. Nor did He come to establish Gods Kingdom here on earth at that time. Do you read the scriptures at all?

Jesus said:" Repent, the Kingdom is at hand". He did not say in thousand of years later.

"In Adam all died, and in Christ all live" Jesus was victorious over evil and open the way for us.

I asked you many times to produce some scriptures to back up your beliefs but you fail to do so. That's because there are no scriptures to back your beliefs. If Jesus came here to wipe out evil, and If God wanted to wipe out evil, how is then we still have evil.?

That is a good question ? May be it is because he was rejected and crucified. What would have happened if he could have lived instead of having to die, alone in a faithless world. Think of it. Why did he cried over Jerusalem and over us ?

Jesus and the Lord have more power than Satan ever did or does. The demons flea from the name of Jesus Christ.

Satan fleas from Jesus. Of course

Does Satan flee from you or me ? Jesus said to follow him and to be as perfect as him. Why not ?

He did not say God was going to make us perfect by just removing evil from our life ?

Satan can do nothing without the consent from the Lord.

Jesus said Satan is our father. (that is in the scriptures) We are the ones who do not listen to God. God gave us free will. He want us to return to him.

Like I said you just don't give God enough credit. You must not think the Lord has any power over evil, over satan.

I have no doubt that God could wipe out Satan in a second but God cannot change his principles. He loves even his enemy. Jesus did the same. We are the one who disobeyed God and put Lucifer in charge by rejecting God's commandement and believing Lucifer instead.

When you make statements like that where you say Jesus came to wipe out evil and God wanted to end evil. You do a very large disservice to other readers especially if they are new to the Word of God when you don't produce scriptures to back your statements up. when you produce scriptures to back your statements up it gives credibility to your statements..

Jesus came as the second sinless Adam without original sin. The Messiah is the only one that can uproot the original sin which is the root of evil.

I love to see scriptures backing up statements it just proves to me that the statements are ture and backed by the word of God. Scriptures carry alot of weight. Like I said I am mainly concerned if they are any newbies here.They see you produce many posts and you sound like you know what your talking about, but yet most of the stuff you say are unscriptural and are false.

I think that if you can explain why God could end evil any moment but does not do it, why God is in control of everything when we see daily evil and suffering all around us. If you can explain clearly what is the original sin and how evil will end on the earth, then you should not be afraid of anything I say.

You have no scriptures to back you up. If you produce any scriptures showing me where the Lord wanted to wipe out evil when He flooded the earth

God kept just one family, Noah's family. Why did he let everyone else that did not have faith in him die ?

or show me a scripture where Jesus came to wipe out evil I will apologize and eat crow. it would not be the first time.

I already did. Did Jesus come just for a picknik or because he had nothing else to do ?

Darren, I have plenty of scriptures to support what I say. Scriptures should make sense of the whole bible, not just ask people to believe contradiction after contradiction or beliefs that do not make any sense. This is the reason people are walking away from this kind of beliefs.

 

[mee]

Before the last members of the generation that was alive in 1914 will have passed off the scene, all the things foretold will occur, including the "great tribulation" in which the present wicked world will end.-Matt. 24:21, 22, 34.


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for mee i always find that it is best to keep up to date with the understanding of the bible , and the only place that you will get up todate understanding is from the official site of JEHOVAHS WITNESSES.
which inturn is being taught in the worldwide congregations of JEHOVAHS WITNESSES




espeacially when it comes to OTHER things online THEY COULD BE OUT OF DATE



the light is getting ever brighter and ever lighter for Jehovahs channel matthew 24;45-47

But the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established. proverbs 4;18

Light itself has flashed up for the righteous one,
And rejoicing even for the ones upright in heart.
psalm 97;11​

 

[mee]

Yes endurance is needed, there is great opposition to Gods kingdom and to his reigning king JESUS CHRIST ,even though it is very goodnews about the kingdom and its reigning king .

people are influenced by others to reject Gods kingdom and Gods reigning king Jesus christ , and especially are they influenced by religious leaders who refuse to KISS THE SON psalm 2;12 yes there is great opposition to Gods kingdom and Gods reigning king .



endurance is needed .

 

[mee]

Has anyone thought why the JWs are the ONLY ones that believe this stuff??

Its because Jesus IS FEEDING ONE CHANNEL ONLY and that channel has been given innsight

matthew 24;45-47


During the last days, “the ones having insight”—anointed Christians—have been “shining as illuminators” and have brought “many to righteousness,” including the “great crowd” of “other sheep.” (Philippians 2:15; Revelation 7:9; John 10:16)



“And the ones having insight will shine like the brightness of the expanse; and those who are bringing the many to righteousness, like the stars to time indefinite, even forever.Daniel 12;3


The “other sheep”JOHN 10;16 should loyally stick to the anointed, wholeheartedly supporting them in every way