Soul & Spirit are not Synonymous

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  1. Azure24

    Azure24 Well-Known Member

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    The Body...

    When a man dies, his body (if not disintegrated) goes into a grave or tomb (Jn. 11:38). Where within a few days it begins to smell and decompose (Jn. 11:39), and it returns [Heb. shub] to the dust of the ground from which it was taken (Gen. 3:17-19, Job 10:9, Psa. 9:17, etc., etc). The "person" is said to be where the "body" is and the "person" is resurrected from the place where the body is (Mat. 28:6). Only in a figurative or symbolic sense does a "body" ever go to sheol (Jonah 2:2). Jonah was not "literally" in hell [sheol], but in the fish, and besides he didn't even die. I'm sure Jonah's loss of perception inside the fish resembled his knowledge of the word "sheol."

    The Spirit...

    When a man dies his spirit returns to God Who gave it (Lk. 23:46, Psa. 104:24-30). The "spirit" is never said to go to hades or sheol, and the "soul" is never said to go to Heaven at death. Men and beasts have the same spirit [ruach] and they go to the same place (Ecc. 3:18-21). There is no getting around this: when God takes away a living soul's spirit, it always dies. The spirit "gives life." No one can live without "spirit," no matter how young and healthy he may be. There are no exceptions. If there is, where is the Scripture? A dead person cannot experience anything-not pleasure in Heaven or pain in a fabled hell. This is a serious thing. Rom. 14:23 says: "Now everything which is not out of faith is sin." If one doesn't have Scriptures that show people go to eternal hell fire after death, then it is a sin to teach it.

    The Soul...

    When a man dies his soul goes to the unseen or imperceptible [Gk: hades, Heb: sheol]. We also know that when man is in this condition (dead) it is likened to "sleep" (Psa. 13:3, Dan. 12:1-2, Jn. 11:11-14). God Himself likens death to sleep,
    "The Lord said unto Moses [concerning his imminent death], Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers ... " (Deut. 31:16)
    This is substantiated by the fact that:
    "The living know that they shall die, but the dead know not anything" (Ecc. 9:5,6).
    Again:
    " ... for there is no work, nor device [contrivance, intelligence, reason], nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in sheol." (Ecc. 9:10).
    Do we think all of these Scriptures lie? According to what we just read in (Ecc. 9:5,6,10) do dead people know anything? And these verses are correctly translated.
    The words "soul" and "spirit" have become corrupted through theology so that they are now used interchangeably, as if they were synonymous. They are not synonymous. There may be certain similarities between soul and spirit, but similarities do not make them one and the same.
    The "soul" is the seat of sensation, consciousness, and feelings, not the body or the spirit. It is the spirit that imparts life to the body and the body then becomes a living soul (Gen. 2:7).
     
  2. winner08

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    Yes I just had finnish reading about the spirit and about the soul. It is so true that when a person dies he or she DOES NOT go to heaven or hell. The person is dead and that where they stay untill either they are resurrected in the first (the elect) resurrected in the great white throne judgement. Like I say people believe in what they are taught for the most part. They are taught from mans teachings or from mans traditions. Their beliefs are taught from one genaration to the next without question. The perachers preach what they have been taught from one gen. to the next. I used to believe in the same. I believed in heaven and hell i believed that only a few would be saved. I believed in free will. But through a few special teachers who know the truth and can explain the scriptures where they are easy to understand I have been blessed by the Lord so that I may understand His truth and not man's unscriptural falsehoods. I see you have also been blessed by the Lord to know His truth. Great going keepup the great work.

    Darren
     
  3. Azure24

    Azure24 Well-Known Member

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    Hi, Winner08 (or should I say Darren?)

    Truth is when something is of God. It is mentioned at least TWICE in Scripture. When you show them this...They can say nothing against it...
     
  4. mee

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    Soul


    Definition:
    In the Bible, “soul” is translated from the Hebrew ne′phesh and the Greek psy·khe′. Bible usage shows the soul to be a person or an animal or the life that a person or an animal enjoys. To many persons, however, “soul” means the immaterial or spirit part of a human being that survives the death of the physical body. Others understand it to be the principle of life. But these latter views are not Bible teachings. ​





    Spirit

    Definition:


    The Hebrew word ru′ach and the Greek pneu′ma, which are often translated “spirit,” have a number of meanings. All of them refer to that which is invisible to human sight and which gives evidence of force in motion. The Hebrew and Greek words are used with reference to (1) wind, (2) the active life-force in earthly creatures, (3) the impelling force that issues from a person’s figurative heart and that causes him to say and do things in a certain way, (4) inspired utterances originating with an invisible source, (5) spirit persons, and (6) God’s active force, or holy spirit. ​


     
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    1 Thessalonians 5:23
     
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    May the very God of peace sanctify YOU completely. And sound in every respect may the spirit and soul and body of YOU [brothers] be preserved in a blameless manner at the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ.
     
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    The Soul is G-d in the world of forms and is an eternal aspect. The spirit is created and not eternal. It is a temporal divine fragment that provides a functional interface between Created and Creator.

    As described in the Gospel of John, the Holy Spirit or "spirit of truth" is a present source of guidance in facilitating an effective filial relation between Christ Jesus and the Father in the life of an individual person of faith. It has both informational and motivational properties.
    Seekers take strength. The L-rd will call you by name and your strength will be renewed by His spirit.
     

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