"Let's clear the board" Prologue: We gave my nieces a game my sister and brother in law hated. It was a Sesame Street alphabet, word, number learning game where they had to put a number of letters, specific letters, specific colors or whatever onto the board as directed by Big Bird. And when it was time for another try Big Bird would say "Let's clear the board!" So that is where this is headed...let's clear the board, discuss what we've done how we've done it and how best to move on. Let's discuss!! I've got a question to open with. Where were Jews at this time? I mean today we go from Ortho-Consv-Ref-Reconst-Renewal... With the gnostics, essenes, sicarious, zealots, etc. were there all sorts of levels of belief amongst jews of the day? Was Jesus so far out there? Some Jewish friends of mine say...Well there were a lot of prophets running around at the time...he was one of them...just not one we followed. I mean, my contention is that Moses and Abraham et al were enough for Jews, they connected with G!d thru that, weren't as wrapped up in salvation, orginal sin, afterlife questions as they were about living. Now 613 laws...a little over the top for me, but whatever floats your boat. Me, I like it how Jesus narrowed it down to the top 2 for us, this is the rabbi that was able to provide us with an understanding that we could use.