Tao says he sees the gays in his villiage acting like Vogue-ing Bonobo's on E... I live 200 miles away, and most of the gays in my villiage are exactly the same- is there just the one bad gay gang, promiscuous, drug taking travelling queens who visit the pubs and clubs in different cities on a mission to make the good gays look bad? come on... stereotypes exist because ppl really do act in such ways... hes not a bigot for pointing it out...
Well, the subgroup who go to bars does not make for a good sampling of any group. It has been a long time since I went to a gay bar (not my cup of ale so to speak), but my impression is that those who do are mostly either a) looking to get laid that night (as many straights who hang out at other bars are), or b) looking for a place where they can be themselves and not have to worry about the straights. Tao talked about places that didn't used to be gay bars but where gays were taking over; so perhaps even without any provocation from his side he was getting non-subtle hints that they would just as soon he went away.
Myself, I am not really into segregating myself away from straights (I have moved to the San Francisco Bay Area, sure, but have no interest in moving to Castro Street or any such "gay ghetto"), as Q and Greymare can attest. As for those who do want to segregate themselves, I would wish a) that you would not assume that they represent "all" or even "most" gay people, and b) that you would try to understand why they would feel that way.
I suppose on the flip side I could make a better effort to understand why some women, whether or not Muslim, would want to wall themselves off from men and not be bothered by them, at least sometimes. We all sometimes just need our own space.
BobX... you made me laugh out loud when you said... "it hurts my heart", etc etc... hahaahahaaa... hilarity to the max...
These are my deepest and most sacred feelings, and to say they should be rooted out of me does cut me to the heart. Go ahead, mock and laugh.
ur own bigotry is cancelled out because u like bum-love...
Actually, I don't. It is a common misconception that all gays are into anal sex (or that no straights are!)
in my opinion, being gay is a choice...
Your opinion is based on ignorance. I'm the one who knows. You can believe me when I tell you, or call me a liar.
You need to understand that Bob and I both have strong opinions about certain topics and in ways are just as bad as each other, as we have both proved time and again on this forum. Just because we do not like something we each do, doesn't mean we dislike each other as people.
This is true. When we stay away from veils and sexuality, we often find a lot of agreement, and can at least talk in a friendly manner.
Actually I believe your soul is immensely more important than your body
No you don't. You believe that I ought to be with a woman rather than a man based strictly on my body parts, regardless of my soul. But for me to marry a woman whom I could not possibly have any deep feelings for, just to use her for loveless mechanical sex and procreation, would be a very grave sin: I have known gay men who did such a thing, thinking it was what they ought to do; the quicker that such a pseudo-marriage is ended, the less grief for all concerned.
Oh come now Bobx, you can hardly post such personal information about yourself on an open public forum and then try to suggest only people who agree with you should comment.
I ask for understanding, which you refuse to give me. I never asked for your advice, which you insist on giving.
What I was defending is a persons right to express their opinion that the act of homosexuality, as a sexual act, is a choice and is wrong.
Which is calling me a liar, although I am being honest, and accusing me of wrong, when I have done no wrong to you or anyone else. It is of course your legal right to say such things, but morally, no, there is nothing right at all about it.
Great picture Q, not a single tenticle or forked tail in sight. I'm going to guess Bob is the chap with glasses (not based on sexual preference).
Correct. Greymare is the darker-haired lady, with Q right behind her.
My personal feeling is that I choose my sexuality
You are bisexual, and that is not something that you choose about yourself, although it your choice which direction of attraction you pursue (or both, or neither). I am not.
and therefore assume that others do, I base it on my own experiences as there is no "proof" to tell me otherwise.
Of course you do not have to believe others when they tell you they are not like you. But don't pretend there is nothing offensive about calling people liars.
