Cure druggies - beat them with shovels

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We've seen criticism of Christian attempts to "convert" homosexuals to heterosexuality - but their pseudo-psychological approach seems to pale into comparison by the methods of Serbian Orthodox Priests in rehabilitating drug-users.

Apparently, the process involves "pleasant conversations" and beatings with a shovel or whatever else can be found:

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Outrage at Serbia 'beating' video

Officials in Serbia are investigating an Orthodox Church-run rehabilitation centre where drug addicts have allegedly been filmed being beaten.

A video of one assault, published by Vreme magazine, shows a man appearing to assault a patient by hitting him with a shovel and punching his face.

One former resident said the priests had offered to cure his addiction with "pleasant conversation" and beatings.

The head of the facility, near Novi Pazar, said a "heavy hand" was needed.

"Whoever has a junkie in the house knows what I am talking about," Archpriest Branislav Peranovic told B92 television.

The Serbian Orthodox Church has so far declined comment.
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Are you implying that all Christians are backwards? I thought this was an intetfaith forum.

To be fair as a passivist I wouldnt condone this but I have a feeling that apprach might actually work better then the best treatments avalible, Or i sppose you could let them die of their addiction, that would be far less painfull to the person and their families? Serbians probably dont have the same resources as some prividlged.
 
Postmaster said:
Are you implying that all Christians are backwards? I thought this was an intetfaith forum.
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I'm implying that whatever the complaints about "curing homosexuals", the actions described in treating drug users are far more extreme. :)

Postmaster said:
To be fair as a passivist I wouldnt condone this but I have a feeling that apprach might actually work better then the best treatments avalible.
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I should hope that this simply means you're not aware of valid treatment - the video has met with worldwide condemnation, and outrage in Serbia.
 
sorry removed my post cause thought it might be too personal to say on a forum. But i have insight on this. And a beating looks quite appealing. Although as I said this is something I would not condone.
 
I said:
I'm implying that whatever the complaints about "curing homosexuals", the actions described in treating drug users are far more extreme. :)
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I think what you're really implying is that people often have no clue as how to deal with the complexities of human existence and can fall back on the most barbaric and senseless strategies in the vain hope to bring about a desired result.

Homosexuals should find no relief from this.
 
The homosexual issue is a completly different issue to this one. Like I said I have nothing agasint homosexuals at all. You guys have a problem with me promoting my own sexual orientation.

And as for the beating drug adicts.. Its 100% wrong. Although trying to look at it from an other perspective.
 
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Or i sppose you could let them die of their addiction, that would be far less painfull to the person and their families? Serbians probably dont have the same resources as some prividlged.
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Postmaster said:
You guys have a problem with me promoting my own sexual orientation.
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There are a few people on this site who have indicated they are gay. However I would hazard to guess most are heterosexual. I am, and it is not your promotion of your sexual orientation that is an issue here. You can be as straight and proud as you wish. It isn't your sexual orientation you promote, it is your indication that you are all knowlegable on the subject and that any other orientation is wrong which you promote and I have issues with. I have no issue with you having an opinion, only that you don't feel others have the same weight.
Postmaster said:
Are you implying that all Christians are backwards? I thought this was an intetfaith forum.

Or i sppose you could let them die of their addiction, that would be far less painfull to the person and their families? Serbians probably dont have the same resources as some prividlged.
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Seriously PM? Do you think that Brian's implication?

And do you seriously think this is the best option a Christian cana come up with...die of your addiction or be beaten?
 
Im just being wary of Brians OP thats all.. Christians are the biggest religious majority in the world so you can't say when some people do something a certain way it represents all Christians and some of these the most inteligent, sucessful people around if looking it at from an opposite view.

In some cases there is nothing in the world that would make someone give up drugs and they end up dieing from their addiction. What would you suggestion for these people? A funeral service brousure?

Were part of societys that use brute force towards soverign nations anyway.

However like I said I don't condone this, its not right and im sure theres plenty other avenues you can take to deal with this including isolation.
 
Will theres nothing wrong with promoting sexuality exclusively for hetrosexuality. I view sexuality as sacred and think it should go with monogamy. Attraction is nothing but a game, sexual orientation changes and is vast enough to write a dictionary on. I've just narrowed it down to its most fundemental purpose, this way people are more contentful, can pro create and cause less risk of STDS. Anyone that doesn't want to do this I have no problem with. I respest anyone that doesnt want to.
 
I said:
We've seen criticism of Christian attempts to "convert" homosexuals to heterosexuality - but their pseudo-psychological approach seems to pale into comparison by the methods of Serbian Orthodox Priests in rehabilitating drug-users.

Apparently, the process involves "pleasant conversations" and beatings with a shovel or whatever else can be found:

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Outrage at Serbia 'beating' video
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Beatings with shovels? This must be another part of the message of Jesus of which I am ignorant. :mad:

s.
 
Snoopy said:
Beatings with shovels? This must be another part of the message of Jesus of which I am ignorant. :mad:

s.
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Come now Snoopy! The 'message of Jesus' has long been used to sanction a beating. Christ's humiliation before and then his actual crucifixion are a pivotal part of the 'message'. God commanded his son to suffer, and as we are all gods children... Church's appoint themselves as god. They demand suffering. And that is why they attract every screwed up sadist to their ranks. The report from Ireland 2 days ago said it all, Physical and Sexual Abuse are endemic within the Church.
 
Tao_Equus said:
Come now Snoopy! The 'message of Jesus' has long been used to sanction a beating. Christ's humiliation before and then his actual crucifixion are a pivotal part of the 'message'. God commanded his son to suffer, and as we are all gods children... Church's appoint themselves as god. They demand suffering. And that is why they attract every screwed up sadist to their ranks. The report from Ireland 2 days ago said it all, Physical and Sexual Abuse are endemic within the Church.
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Sometimes my naivety shocks me.

And as for that Report, I don't know what was more appalling; the contents or the fact that apparently jack sh1t is going to happen as a result of it.

s.
 
Tao_Equus said:
Come now Snoopy! The 'message of Jesus' has long been used to sanction a beating. Christ's humiliation before and then his actual crucifixion are a pivotal part of the 'message'. God commanded his son to suffer, and as we are all gods children... Church's appoint themselves as god. They demand suffering. And that is why they attract every screwed up sadist to their ranks. The report from Ireland 2 days ago said it all, Physical and Sexual Abuse are endemic within the Church.
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The message of Jesus is not used the misapplication of the message of Jesus is used.
 
Postmaster said:
Im just being wary of Brians OP thats all.. Christians are the biggest religious majority in the world so you can't say when some people do something a certain way it represents all Christians...
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Nobody's implied in any way that this represented all christians.

Are you familiar with the straw man?
 
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