Actually, you're the one who doesn't know what Chaitin meant, since the BBC linked that quote DIRECTLY to Goedel's attempt at the Continuum theorem, not anything else. I'm gonna call Bullsh*t on this one, bob. Chaitin's opinions are not "widely" disputed. And compared to him, you're a nobody (sorry). So the BBC risked making a slanderous documentary?? LoLz. And don't try and shift the burden of proof on me, buddy. That's your ridiculous theory, not mine. Spengler distanced himself from National Socialism, as he knew they were idiots and would lead to disaster for Germany. Guess he had that one right. In order to make such statements mean anything, you'll have to have a formal system of logic in which truth can be objectively distinguished from falsehood.... too bad, you don't. As it stands now, if I say that God is only responsible for good, while at the same time He is the author of evil, such illogical and irrational statements are as valid as 2+2=4. That's one point of view (that I reject). Also, give the flamboyant prose a rest there chief. yep, i guess you were/are. Since you say you don't care about this thread, than you post entire essays (that don't even relate to the objections, btw.) Seems like quite a contradiction. So what exactly are you doing here? Who r u tryin' to impress with these lectures and diatribes about your high IQ & "broad education"?