All religions are false (One Truth)

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  1. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    Now Gatekeeper, that is really wonderful. I need to learn that lesson, too, only about individuals and ideologies. Like you, I believe (in my word) the truth or the light or the spirt or the G!d within is not the property of any one human being or collection thereof.

    Pax et amore omnia vincunt, friend!
     
  2. Dream

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    Interesting! No I don't think its just another religion. I cannot explain why Israel got it instead of the Cherokee, but I have an idea why it would go to a small group. Jesus told his disciples that they were like salt to keep the world tasty, and I think that he was speaking to them as Jews. Salt is not tasty without other ingredients and is one of the smallest by weight, by which Jesus suggested that Jews would always be a minority. I would not take the allegory of salt further than that, though. I don't think he thought the only nice people in the world were Jews, which is what you get if you take it too far.

    Fair response considering the opening post. I acknowledge what you are saying about Judaism being a way of life, one which can take a lot of time to understand. Jesus disciples more or less already had that or access to it. I think he would say The Torah is Torah. Late in his ministry he tells his disciples he'll be sending the 'Holy spirit' to guide them into all truth, and his concept of All Truth for them probably includes The Torah plus his teachings starting at the beginning of his ministry until his death, perhaps more.
     
  3. Ben Masada

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    Well, Isaiah presents a test to prove the holders of the Truth. And that's a test which can be applied almost in every culture, since morality is universal. "To the Law and the Testimony; if they do not speak according to this method, it's because there is no truth in them." (Isa. 8:20) I compare this concept with another universal concept which is the Golden Rule of not doing unto others what we would not like they did unto us. These concepts are found nowhere but in the Jewish Scriptures.
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  5. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    I hope for my sake, I haven't been feeling the 'elephant's' ass. that would be so embarrassing, even for a blind man.:eek::D
     
  6. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Shades of Reason

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    I hope for your sake you haven't as well. :p


    Man gets head stuck in an elephants ass:

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  7. Ben Masada

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    Jesus never had anything to do with Christianity, which was founded by Paul in the city of Antioch, about 30 years after Jesus had been gone. (Acts 11:26) And to compare Christianity to love as a way of life is simply lack of knowledge about love. How could such a kind of love be explained if we consider the shedding of blood caused to Jesus' fellow Jews throughout Christian history by way of pogroms, blood libels, Crusades, Inquisition and, last but not least, the Holocaust of only 70 years ago? So much for love as a way of life.
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  8. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Shades of Reason

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    The Christian religion is far from being perfect (obviously), but is Judaism any better? You talk about misguided Christians, the shedding of blood, the crusades, inquisition, and even the Holocaust (genocide), but you forget about the atrocities committed by the Jews, who like those misguided Christians, thought they were doing God's will. What all this comes down to is that those who followed these religions were misguided. Love, however, is a way of life. Jesus taught love, but humanity is not quite ready to let it guide them, which is why we still have war, violence, etc. in today's world.
     
  9. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    The mistake is taking the Christian Religion for the religion of Jesus. If one drills down into the texts, one can find ghosts of the original religion. Yes, the Jerusalem group collapsed in 62 with the Death of James. Yes, the original Q was changed in Matthew and Luke. The earliest layers of Mark were overwhelmed. The Johannine mystery got lost. Thomas was excluded.

    The re-creation of Church and Canon under Constantine in the IVth Century should not be mistaken for the treachings of the Living Christ.
     

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