I thought the cultural relativity argument would be enough ..... obviously not. How about I approach this from another angle? Just because Muslims in the Middle Eastern like getting angry about things like drawing Mohammed, Salman Rushdie and Quran burning, showing intolerance to Christians and making Christians into second-class citizens, does not mean the Western world should apply the same standard. I think it's a cynical attitude to say that "we will do X because you do it in your country" or "we won't do Y because you don't do it in your country." By saying you won't respect someone because they don't respect you it makes you no better than that person. I am not suggesting you always have to be better than someone. There is a limit to what we can do. My point is that when people are capable of not offending/humiliating Muslims, they should do whatever they can to prevent Muslims from being/feeling humiliated. Freedom of speech should not go so far as allowing someone to antagonise a whole group of people. When it comes to Christians, there is an additional perspective and way of seeing things. Jesus said "my kingdom is not of this world." This means that Christians should not concern themselves with the maintenance and integrity of the present world order, which is subject to continual and persistent change. Christians cannot rely on the present world order remaining the same. They should set their minds on the kingdom of heaven, not the kingdoms of the world. As far as I am concerned, there are no Christian nations, and there never were any. The so-called, nominally-labelled "Christian" nations of the past were responsible for atrocities against various groups of people. Christianity is not a political system. It is not about statecraft or a state apparatus. The Western world of today is not "Christian." It is secular. I would oppose any attempt at "Islamisation" of the political system and would like to see it remain secular for as long as possible. But calling Muslims enemies of state when they are quite capable of fitting in with a secular framework is the other extreme that I would also oppose. I would prefer to convince Muslims that a secular society benefits all of us. No, not about you. I was speaking in third person. I personally think it is extreme to call something "hate" when it is anger, fear or concern about worrying trends. I would like to say the same about racism, bigotry, genocide, intolerance and propaganda. Too many people use these terms when there are better ways to make their point and when they don't even bother to understand what is really happening. Too many people use these terms out of a knee-jerk reaction. Juantoo, I have a hammer and would like to tap your knee cap to see how you respond. Oh one more thing. Just because I disagree with someone doesn't mean I am accusing them of hatred. Another tap of the hammer.