I have really never heard of 'objective' or 'scientific' being referred to as a 'style of thought'. How crazy is that. In my experience the lab, the experiment, the interaction with the world, is very much required to be an objective scientist. To be an objective scientist requires sensory and motor skills: interaction with the world in one form or another. Ah, so it is troubling to you that different people have different objective viewpoints. It troubles you that some get to objectively experience hitting a golf ball on the moon, and some do not. It is troubling to you that some have experienced what it is like being on a cross, and some have not. Interesting. Oh, right: so to you the 'right stuff' was just that 'physical stuff'. Could a monkey have performed the job? Here again you claim that schooling makes a scientist. I assert that a pre-school child can be an objective scientist, bobx. Do you disagree with that?