How is it still my idea when you have applied your own perceptions to it? Do you believe that you are understanding poetry the way the author intended? Union is complete, there are no degrees thereof. You can get closer, but there is no union when there are still two. This isn't really how meditation works, since these are dual concepts - true or false, right or wrong. A criminal is the exact opposite of a spiritual person. A spiritual person, in realizing how everything is intertwined, attempts to assist all they encounter. A criminal, believing they are the only one that matters, has no compassion for anyone else at all. What is the nature of the rock? Do you think its chemical makeup is not found within yourself? How can you know anything about a rock? You make assumptions, but you cannot know because there is no feedback in any way. A rock is like a true spiritual person in that it just is, it doesn't have biases at all, I think you could learn a lot from a rock if you contemplated its complete detachment from its surroundings. The rock has no perspective on what may happen to it, it doesn't see the river wearing it away as a negative thing, it accepts it. That said, you are also showing your complete lack of understanding of the terms "object" and "subject"... the dictionary, in this context, defines object as "A person or thing to which a specified action or feeling is directed". Unless in your experience a conversation happens entirely within a single mind, then the person you are talking to is the object of your speech. Thus, each is the object and subject variously during the discussion.