Obama Leaves God out of Thanksgiving Speech, Riles Critics

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  1. Nick the Pilot

    Nick the Pilot Well-Known Member

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    Obama Leaves God out of Thanksgiving Speech, Riles Critics - Yahoo! News

    Critics of President Obama felt little holiday cheer after the president did not thank God in his Thanksgiving-themed weekly Internet address. They immediately took to Twitter and the Internet to voice anger and disbelief.

    "Holy cow! Is that one screwed up or what?" columnist Sherman Frederick of the Las Vegas Review-Journal wrote in a Thanksgiving-morning blog post.

    "Somebody ought to remind Obama (and his speechwriter) that when Americans sit down around a meal today and give thanks, they give thanks to God."

    Over on the website of Fox News Radio, radio host Todd Starnes also took issue.

    "His remarks were void of any religious references, although Thanksgiving is a holiday traditionally steeped in giving thanks and praise to God," Starnes wrote.

    "The president said his family was 'reflecting on how truly lucky we truly are,'" Starnes said. "For many Americans, though, Thanksgiving is a time to reflect on how blessed and thankful they are."

    The popular website of London's Daily Mail has taken the issue global, with a story under the headline "What a Turkey! Outrage as Obama Leaves God Out of His Thanksgiving Address."

    Obama mentioned God once in a closing "God bless you," to Americans watching the Internet address. However, the President explicitly thanked God earlier in the week in his written Thanksgiving proclamation, which called the holiday "one of our nation's oldest and most cherished traditions," and an occasion that "brings us closer to our loved ones and invites us to reflect on the blessings that enrich our lives."

    "As we gather in our communities and in our homes, around the table or near the hearth, we give thanks to each other and to God for the many kindnesses and comforts that grace our lives. Let us pause to recount the simple gifts that sustain us, and resolve to pay them forward in the year to come," Obama wrote.

    Ironically, the attacks on Obama came as the Republican White House hopefuls suspended their criticism of the president on Thursday in favor of a unified message of thanks to U.S. service members and their families.

    Three of the Republican presidential candidates – Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum – issued Thanksgiving statements that omitted any references to God. Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain and Rick Perry mentioned God in their statements.

    Obama, like his predecessors, records an address each week that focuses on an issue the White House wants to spotlight. The messages are typically posted on the Internet at the start of the weekend, but this week's address – with its Thanksgiving theme – was issued before the holiday.

    In this week's address, delivered from the White House, Obama said, "We are especially grateful for the men and women who defend our country overseas," and he said, "We're also grateful for the Americans taking time from their holiday to serve in soup kitchens and shelters."

    He acknowledged this Thanksgiving would be "more difficult than most" for many Americans because of the economy, but added, "No matter how tough things are right now, we still give thanks for that most American of blessings, the chance to determine our own destiny."
     
  2. Vajradhara

    Vajradhara One of Many

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    i suspect that such things are just part of the job; irrespective of what he says there will always be some that take exception to this or that and take things out of context etc.

    generally speaking, i'm not such a huge fan of this holiday except for the fact i usually have several days off in a row with my wife :) and she makes good foods to eat :)
     
  3. Nick the Pilot

    Nick the Pilot Well-Known Member

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    Vaj,

    I usually try to see both sides of an issue, but I think columnist Sherman Frederick's remarks were horrible. In effect Frederick is saying that Buddhists, agnostics, and aetheists have no right to show thanks and attend a Thanksgiving dinner. This is closed-mindedness and discrimination of the worst kind.
     
  4. Etu Malku

    Etu Malku Mercuræn

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    I think politics as well as Thanksgiving is better served without references to an Abrahamic god, this country is made up of many religions, to single one out is just plain wrong.
     
  5. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    Oh gee whiz! They raise a stink about Obama and not about Romney, Gingrich, or Santorum? pfft.

    Partisanship at its finest. :rolleyes:
     
  6. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    Thanx be to G!d in the highest for providing pagan savages to save us through the first few winters so we could committ a calculated genocide amongst their peoples.

    Ya think they would have been happier?
     
  7. Vajradhara

    Vajradhara One of Many

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    hi Nick,

    well... he's certainly entitled to his opinion though i would tend to agree with you, his view is close minded.

    i would also agree with Wil, Seattlegal and Etu's comments :)

    @Wil... hmm... which "they" are you asking could have been happier?

    metta,

    ~v
     
  8. Nick the Pilot

    Nick the Pilot Well-Known Member

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    Vaj,

    "They" are the indians who saved the white settlers from starving to death that first winter (although Wil's comment is said with sarcasm). [​IMG]
     
  9. NiceCupOfTea

    NiceCupOfTea Pathetic earthlings

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    maybe he could have thanked Satan instead or allah imagine the uproar if he had done that :eek::rolleyes:
     
  10. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    The following was actually the origin of thanksgiving in the Massachusetts Bay Colony which Washington later changed (to hide the balant racism?) to fit with "first winter" idea.
    It was a victory celebration for "King Phillip's War", which set the template for subsequent warfare and genocide against the Nations of Turtle Isle (see also http://www.nativeweb.org/pages/legal/thanksgiving_nelte.html)

    Panta Rhei!
    Everything Flows!


    First Thanksgiving Proclamation

    June 20, 1676
    "The Holy God having by a long and Continual Series of his Afflictive dispensations in and by the present Warr with the Heathen Natives of this land, written and brought to pass bitter things against his own Covenant people in this wilderness, yet so that we evidently discern that in the midst of his judgements he hath remembered mercy, having remembered his Footstool in the day of his sore displeasure against us for our sins, with many singular Intimations of his Fatherly Compassion, and regard; reserving many of our Towns from Desolation Threatened, and attempted by the Enemy, and giving us especially of late with many of our Confederates many signal Advantages against them, without such Disadvantage to ourselves as formerly we have been sensible of, if it be the Lord's mercy that we are not consumed, It certainly bespeaks our positive Thankfulness, when our Enemies are in any measure disappointed or destroyed; and fearing the Lord should take notice under so many Intimations of his returning mercy, we should be found an Insensible people, as not standing before Him with Thanksgiving, as well as lading him with our Complaints in the time of pressing Afflictions:
    The Council has thought meet to appoint and set apart the 29th day of this instant June, as a day of Solemn Thanksgiving and praise to God for such his Goodness and Favour, many Particulars of which mercy might be Instanced, but we doubt not those who are sensible of God's Afflictions, have been as diligent to espy him returning to us; and that the Lord may behold us as a People offering Praise and thereby glorifying Him; the Council doth commend it to the Respective Ministers, Elders and people of this Jurisdiction; Solemnly and seriously to keep the same Beseeching that being perswaded by the mercies of God we may all, even this whole people offer up our bodies and soulds as a living and acceptable Service unto God by Jesus Christ."
     
  11. SilverLotus

    SilverLotus Proof Goddess Is Humor

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    Good for Obama.

    Given the word, "God", is fundamentally inferred as a reference to the Christian deity, he's at least doing his part to imply this is a nation of people, of eclectic beliefs that very often do not include belief there is a god to be thankful to.

    Thanksgiving in the meantime is a time when we can, through introspection of the year prior, reflect on what we are thankful for in our own lives and through our own efforts. And if god is part of that equation, in thinking any Deity, be it those found in monotheistic or polytheistic belief systems,and thus had any part in it, then that is our personal responsibility to include them in our thanks.

    It is not incumbent on a President to imply we are a Christian nation, when we are not.

    Of course, Obama is not above criticism just for being who he is. So in effect it seems that the man can do nothing that won't get someone or some group upset because he is not representing the office the way they would like.
    Tragic. Especially as it appears to the world's governments, their citizens and especially those who hate us as a nation and as a people. :(
     

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