Discussion in 'Belief and Spirituality' started by Student of Knowledge, Jan 2, 2012.
If God spoke again, would you listen?
Would you be able to recognize it, if God spoke again?
Again? Did spirit ever stop communicating? Or did many of us simply stop listening?
Since when? Seems a lot of folks are listening, and writing books about what they are hearing.
i agree, who said he stopped.
this is a good point, as a Christian I have met many who claim to hear God speak all the time, how they know its God with any real integrity is questionable.
G!d, Kosmos, Humanity, Creation, Revelation, Redemption are all on-going processes. Saying they have stopped is like saying time and life and breathing have stopped. Just does not make sense.
Nor does having G!d's word the property of some individual or group. The G!d/dess speaks directly with that of G!d in everything. If the word is something "revealed" to only one or one group, IMHO, that alone is sufficient reason to question its authenticity.
What you said in your second paragraph is also said in the New Message Teachings. You are on the mark. In the Revelation it is said that God can only speak to what God created in you - which is called Knowledge. What each individual is to do is known within them and is something they were designed to do. So in that sense everyone, if prepared to listen, can hear God's word within themselves.
However, when a Revelation is given that will effect many people, or in this case the entire world, it is ALWAYS given through one individual. This preserves its integrity, its purity. There is no contention between multiple "Messengers" and that would surely happen given the nature of our personal minds and the fact that all of us, even God's Messengers are fallible and human.
This current Messenger makes no claims to greatness or power. He is simply God's Messenger. He has prepared himself and been prepared to receive this vast Revelation and attempt to present it to the world. That is all.
Contained within the Revelation is information for all to hear. It contains a preparation to effectively reclaim your relationship with Knowledge within you and others. It provides what we need at this time and the times to come. It is then everyone's responsibility to read it, study it, learn it and eventually practice and act upon what you see to do.
We all own it and are responsible to it. In fact everything that is essential in the Revelation is offered free of charge on the internet for the world. Would you expect anything else to be the case?
If you can over come your fear, skepticism, and presumptions, you may be able to see and hear clearly enough to recognize what has been given to you, to us as a world, from the Creator itself.
so who is the current messenger ?
No, Robert, I reject any and all messages from G!d which are revealed to one and only one individual. Like the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints, the New Message may appeal to some, but not I.
Wait a minute! You mean He finally said something and I missed it? Crap!
Yeah, EM, Sh! warned us about threads like this!
His name is Marshall Vian Summers
thank feck for that - and there was me thinking this thread would be a waste of time. so you've got his name? great - what's his skype address? how wonderful that the Real Thing (TM) has finally shown up after all those charlatans and con artists...
That is the power of decision that we as humans are given here in the physical reality. I respect your power of decision.
A question - not necessarily to be answered here : how do we (if one feels there is more to life than what we can perceive) truly discern the truth? What is real as opposed to what we only believe, hope for, assume, idealize etc...? For the truth can and often does exist beyond all these things of the mind.
I pose a challenge for anyone here - go and read/study any one of the Teachings that are free and available to you. Then come and discuss what your have learned and experienced.
The emphasis should never be on the Messenger. It is the Message that is important and what it invokes in you.
No, that is like saying "I see what I eat, therefore I eat what I see". I did read them, even went to the web-site where the "Messenger" has several hundreds of dollars of goods for sale. Bogus, in every way in every sentence, in every manner.
So bad is this message, I would rather debate with those little men with ties on who believe their message. Gold tablets that mysteriously disappear have a better chance of being real than this.
I will not debate, but every posting not in a new forum area (call it "New Message from God" or whatever). Will have this same weary reply.
You went and looked and read. That is good. Your reaction and position is yours to take of course. Arguing with you will accomplish nothing. And no one will convince you of anything. Only you can do that. So I thank you for taking the challenge.
I only hope others will use their own power of decision and assessment and have the experience itself, and not rely on the words of anyone else, including mine.
like i've always maintained, if God wanted for me to know that God existed, it could certainly do so in a manner which would utter convince me. given that i'm not an omniscient being i don't know what manner that would take but then that is the provenance of God, yes?
Playing hide-and-go-seek, perhaps?
Very true. And again the question arises of how do we know the truth?
Maybe part of our power is that God doesn't need to convince us of anything. Maybe we need to convince ourselves of something...and God will confirm that.
what teachings ?
Do you mean where can you find them, or which ones I would suggest?
Separate names with a comma.