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THREE GREAT IDEAS
From Echoes of the Orient, II pp. 9-10; second edition, Pasadena: Theosophical University Press, 2009, p. 12.
Among many ideas brought forward through the theosophical movement there are three which should never be lost sight of. Not speech, but thought, really rules the world; so, if these three ideas are good let them be rescued again and again from oblivion.
The first idea is, that there is a great Cause — in the sense of an enterprise — called the Cause of Sublime Perfection and Human Brotherhood. This rests upon the essential unity of the whole human family, and is a possibility because sublimity in perfectness and actual realization of brotherhood on every plane of being are one and the same thing. All efforts by Rosicrucian, Mystic, Mason and Initiate are efforts toward the convocation in the hearts and minds of men of the Order of Sublime Perfection.
The second idea is, that man is a being who may be raised up to perfection, to the stature of the Godhead, because he himself is God incarnate. This noble doctrine was in the mind of Jesus, no doubt, when he said that we must be perfect even as is the father in heaven. This is the idea of human perfectibility. It will destroy the awful theory of inherent original sin which has held and ground down the western Christian nations for centuries.
The third idea is the illustration, the proof, the high result of the others. It is, that the Masters those who have reached up to what perfection this period of evolution and this solar system will allow are living, veritable facts, and not abstractions cold and distant. They are, as our old H.P.B. so often said, living men. And she said, too, that a shadow of woe would come to those who should say they were not living facts, who should assert that “the Masters descend not to this plane of ours.” The Masters as living facts and high ideals will fill the soul with hope, will themselves help all who wish to raise the human race.
Let us not forget these three great ideas.
WILLIAM Q. JUDGE
Agreed ... and I think this is a general view, or understanding of the fundamentals, existentially and ontologically speaking, shared by many Theosophists. It agrees with the idea of Cartesian Dualism, giving preference to the res cogitans as sub-standing the res extensa, making all that we contact with our senses subordinate to the unseen, usually intangible worlds of emotion, thought and Soul reality. The latter is the domain of Plato's Ideals, and there we find true Virtue ... as objective as a person's physical body, or emotional and psychological disposition or temperament, if we have the tools for proper analysis."Do we have a soul?" asks Nick the Pilot. Speaking loosely I would say we are a soul, to which a body is attached.
I'm curious: I think you said you are a Buddhist, but Buddhists say we do not 'have' a 'soul.' How do you resolve this discrepancy?
After one dies then, the eighth consciousness is called the intermediate skandha body. Before one dies it is called the present skandha body. It is also known as the “soul” and as the “Buddha nature.”
This sure brings up a bunch of issues. I have found that almost all Buddhists reject the idea of a 'soul' and call anyone who believes in a 'soul' a non-Buddhist. I now call myself "...a Buddhist, but not in the traditional sense of the word." It sounds like you and I are in the same boat on this one.
Have you been rejected by Buddhists, or told by them that you are not a Buddhist because of what you belive?
Okay, is this a dogma? You must believe Blavatsky or you are not a theosophist? I just get the willies when someone talks about secret masters and hidden teachings. Yes, I can accept that if it is part of a tradition (sufism or kabbalah or tantra). But claims that are totally subjective (I am no expert, I am just reporting what I have heard or read... sometimes many years ago) like the Golden Glasses and the Tablets of the Book of Mormon or the "received teachings" of "The New Message of God" by someone in a trance do not strike me as really worth my time (IMHO, I may be totally wrong).
This is definitely among the teachings of Theosophy. In fact, the existence of the Great Ones is taught in some form in every exoteric religion. The Tibetan Master calls the Hierarchy the `Society of illumined and organized Minds' ... and hundreds, perhaps thousands of people living today have met one, perhaps even several of the Masters. To do so in the flesh is far more rare than coming under their influence, or inspiration [and resultant Illumination] on the inner planes ... yet we are told that conditions are steadily changing as we progress into the New Era.The Masters of Blavatsky were flesh and blood and many people other than HPB met them.
Right. I think this distinction can be understood if we look at the relation between the lesser and Greater Mysteries. Both are the esoteric heart and Soul of every religion, like pieces of a mosiac or tapestry which only fully realizes its purpose once we see the woven or created patterns as a whole.Andrew,
We also need to mention that all Masters are Initiates, and that many of their teachings are not to be given to the general population.