Spiritual Stages Advice?

Discussion in 'Belief and Spirituality' started by Persona, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. NiceCupOfTea

    NiceCupOfTea Pathetic earthlings

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    i have an inkling that it is one split personality engaging in self dialogue :rolleyes:
     
  2. bhaktajan

    bhaktajan Active Member

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    "I'm Good Enough, I'm Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me!"
    Stuart Smalley's famous quote - YouTube

    Maybe Lunitik be a goverment minister one day. In a government near you.


    Lunitik is a card carrying member of "I don't believe in anything"

    aka,

    "I believe in NOTHING"

    That is why he can expouse on any topic . . . with the same conclusion each time . . . with additional words added. But no one can deny that the rules of grammer & punctuation have been devotely adhered to in Lunitik's self-initiated musings.

    may the muses infuse you with the rapture of being 'someone',
    Bhaktajan
     
  3. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    I resemble that "split personality" remark!
     
  4. Lunitik

    Lunitik Interfaith Forums

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    I know that belief cannot be a truth, that is all.

    Why will you want to be 'someone' though? Can you not be content that you simply are? You say I am self-initiated, it is perfectly correct, I am self-enlightened... yet who is the true self?

    If you can answer this, if you know the significance, then I will ask why you consider it better to be initiated by another human?
     
  5. bhaktajan

    bhaktajan Active Member

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    BHAKTAJAN ANSWERS:
    "Enlightenment of any profession & skill set is taught and learned in this same manner."
    http://www.interfaith.org/forum/fear-of-god-15203-8.html#post264611

    FYI: On this planet ---you assertion is considered "insane".

    What other qualifications do have that were self-appointed to your self?
    Did you appoint a Valid Drivers Licence? A Doctors' Licence? A Pilot's Licence? A Marraige Licence?

    But here's the ironic enlightenment part: Lunitik is "envious" of God ---and ergo, Lunitik's haplessness enrages him against God even further. That's Lunitik's Story.
     
  6. Persona

    Persona Interfaith Forums

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    The analogy of feeding ourselves both spiritually & nutritionally makes sense.
    I realize there is a well within us of love that when we tap into, we won't thirst again. I think this is what Jesus was trying to teach by the story with the woman at the well who had been married several times & was living with a different lover... "Stop lookin' for love in all the wrong places."

    I think my need for control sometimes blocks my intuition.
    Why do you think communication between souls is impossible?

    True.
    That's why I really want to get to the bottom of it, so it doesn't keep manifesting in different ways.

    I like that scripture & can relate.
    You seem to pick up on things well. For me, sounds, smells etc. seem to be amplified- more so since I've had children.
    It's tough to be in tune & a responsible mother, from a distance.
    I know, as they grow up, I need to learn to do this better though.

    Yeah, the fact that emotions are the product of thought is empowering to realize.
     
  7. Persona

    Persona Interfaith Forums

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    :D lol
    Wax on, wax off.

    Thanks for all of this info, Bhakjajan.
    It reminds me that many religions have some core concepts in common.
    I especially like the idea of god as 'thinking, willing, & feeling' (not necessarily in that order).
     
  8. Lunitik

    Lunitik Interfaith Forums

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  9. Persona

    Persona Interfaith Forums

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    Although, there are some spiritual words to be taken literally at times (ie don't kill, don't steal)... there are variables & also most scriptures are spiritual lessons, not history/science/emergency prep lessons.

    Interesting notes about fire and water.
     
  10. Persona

    Persona Interfaith Forums

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    Like Shrek said... we're like onions. :p
     
  11. donnann

    donnann Active Member

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    I am past all the elements and am at the stage of the source element..I call this the crystal element or crystal light.
     
  12. Lunitik

    Lunitik Interfaith Forums

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    God is neither of these, though, these are human attributes.

    God is that one which watches the thoughts.
    God is that one which observes the will.
    God is that one which is aware of feelings.

    God is the perpetual witness, yet he is untouched by any event. This is what we must find, and I would recommend Maharshi Ramana and his self-inquiry device to find out where that witness resides. No school is enlightening as many in todays world as his people are, there is good reason for this...

    The most prevalent of his school that is living today is 'Mooji', I would also recommend any of his videos on YouTube - truly a beautiful man.
     
  13. Lunitik

    Lunitik Interfaith Forums

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    I think you would agree Buddha is a spiritual man, yet he has killed. It was because he could see this man was going to kill others and accepted the karmic ramifications rather than permit that. There are stories of a Zen Master stealing small things frequently because he wanted to land in jail so that he could touch those who had become so lost.

    Nothing in the world is black and white, all is a shade of grey. As I have said, intent is what matters, deeds are mostly irrelevant.
     
  14. Lunitik

    Lunitik Interfaith Forums

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    It is a great metaphor for the spiritual journey, unraveling the layers of your psyche and looking at what is at the center, very good :)
     
  15. donnann

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    Same idea for the lotus with its petals , opening to ones own true self.
     
  16. Lunitik

    Lunitik Interfaith Forums

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    The metaphor of the Lotus has many ramifications, this can be seen as one, yes.

    The 10,000 petal Lotus intends enlightenment, it literally feels like the top of your head is being opened as the Lotus flower when the crown chakra opens.

    There is also the significance that the flower is not touched by the water, yet its stem has grown through it. Still lower, the roots grow in mud which is extremely sludgy, yet from that same mud is this beautiful flower. It means to learn to be in the world, but not of it.

    There are more, like that you should not fight the world - or sin, the mud - but merely rise above it.

    It is one of the central metaphors in the East.
     
  17. donnann

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    Interesting. There may be more than 10000 petals but each petal has a crytal sparkle or lock that is linked to the crytal in the center. The lotus is golden but the locks are this crytal and so is the center . Any thoughts on this? I know that the locks are opened internally but also externally. They are interconnected, the center crystal and thousands of crystals on the petals. Have you read anything on this subject? I have no found anything on this.
     
  18. bhaktajan

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    Therefore God is NOT a PERSONA ---and we humans cannot expect a "Personal Relationship with God" because God is Impersonal.

    But Lunitik is a person. No?
     
  19. donnann

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    GOD is a person. He has a personality, and is consciousness just as everyone else is. Consciousness came from consciouness, intelligence from intelligence. He is a living being with free thought and personality so you can have a personal relationship with GOD.
     
  20. bhaktajan

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    Yeah Baby!

    Don't fight the power!
     

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