How much is God mentioned

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  1. exile

    exile Interfaith Forums

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    How much is God, and the Son of God, and the Angels, the Devil, Demons, Heaven, Hell, the Resurrection, Judgment Day mentioned in advertisements, on tv shows, in films? How frequently are these anomalies mentioned on the radio, theater, and in video games?
     
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    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    Often........

    What is it you are looking for?
     
  3. Amergin

    Amergin Well-Known Member

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    Despite the First Amendment of the US Constitution separating Church and State, freedom of and from religion has eluded Americans. That law has never been enforced. Even more so now than in the past, the USA is a de facto Theocracy. Professing Christianity is essential for election of a candidate for any public office from mayors, state senates, the US Congress and Senate, and the President and Vice-President. America is more Christian ruled than the nominal royal theocracies of Great Britain, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, and Spain.

    The West European and East Asian nations have populations with non-believers ranging from 40% to 90%. America is the reverse with 90% Christian, 5% minority religions (Islam, Judaism, Hinduism), and only 5% non-believers. It is the most Christian nation on Earth, contains more Christians than any other nations, and is the only one in which a Non-Believer has no legitimate standing apart from University Science Professors.

    If America persecutes its Scientists and Doctors who are atheists, it will bring a final crumbling of the American Corporation Empire. Therefore, it tolerates them, knowing the catastrophe of losing 90% of its scientists and a majority of its Speciality Doctors, such as Neuroscientists.

    However, opposition to much of what science studies is hampered by vocal and violent opposition by superstitious Christian Evangelicals and some Catholics. The price paid for by America is science shifting most important research is in Europe, China, Japan, and Russia. America has dropped out of the science race for both economic decline, educational decline, and opposition from Taliban Christians. I lived there for a year in the 80's. It was a bit scary at times, but now it no longer qualifies as a democratic state. I am deeply sad over this. I still love America and the rational minority that still survives there.

    Amergin
     
  4. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    Funny, the Southern Baptist Convention wholy disagrees. "Americans idetified as Evangelical" = 33%, "Catholic" =25%, "other Christian" = 18%, "other religious faith" = 5%, "non-believer" = 16%, no answer = 3%.

    We religious-but-not-fundamentalist-Christians have been fighting the good fight for a long time. If you look at the number of MDs and other professionals looking to immagrate here I do not feel most of the world shares your harsh profile.

    Democracy is messy, but because we elect self-identified Evangelicals (like Bush II) does not mean we are a theocracy (since we have no religious laws or codes on the books at the national level).
     
  5. Servetus

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    And, what's more, if we, as a nation, seem rather disinclined to go gentle with Europe into that good night of atheism, we ought not be faulted too severely because, according to the framers of our increasingly besieged and beleagured Constitution, we have been endowed "by our Creator" with certain unalienable rights. I appreciate what remains of those rights and do not want king, potentate or, for that matter, Richard Dawkins to rid me of them.

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  6. exile

    exile Interfaith Forums

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    I'm trying to determine the utility of these expressions. Do we need them? Can we live without them? If we need them how come no one ever questions the origins of these expressions? If I was born into a world that is dependent on these expressions, and I knew I was rightfully a custodian to the expressions, and I or my community wasn't getting credited for the usage by third parties I'd be like the angriest person in the world.
     
  7. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    @ amerigin, there is no separation of church and state in the first amendment....

    congress shall pass no law....is not a separation, nor is freedom of speech.


    In the public media most of the expressions you refer to most of the time are there in a fictional manner....

    How often? You'd have to design a program to do a search....
     
  8. Amergin

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    The better question is how many Americans believe the Bible is literally true, metaphorically true, or untrue?

    I saw a poll that 49 to 50% of Americans take the Bible as literally true, denying Evolution, the Age of the Earth, plate tectonics, and the soul not the brain as the source of cognition.

    You have many professionals trying to migrate to America because of the higher wages they can demand and negotiate with the highest bidder. I did so a couple decades ago, practicing Neurology and Epileptology for a year. I got homesick for the greater personal freedom in Scotland and absence of anti-atheism there. I accepted a reduced income with the quality of life in Scotland. Today, America has passed more and more laws against personal freedom. You no longer live in a democracy, and for that I am sad for you.

    If you pay enough, you will continue to get newly trained Ph.D. and Physicians from us. However I know several older doctors who practiced in America but saved money and returned to their home countries to retire.

    The Dean of a major West Coast Medical School, and personal friend, moaned that Medical Schools are unable to fill all of their student slots due to a fall in applications, and too many academically unqualified for Med School. The Medical Schools also must recruit doctoral professors from Europe, Russia, and Asia to teach in the American Medical schools.

    He told me that common people complaining that they have a hard time finding American doctors in emergency rooms, hospitals, and multipractice groups. Asians are becoming common in clinics and hospitals and they are very well trained. Europeans are common too but not noticed until they talk.

    I am not making any of this up. You are OK, now because we produce more doctors than we need, and America gets many of them.

    Amergin.
     
  9. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    Well, your poll vs. my poll is a matter of opinion. The "gold standard" polls (gallup, rasmussen, pew) show something radically different. Per Gallup only 31% believe as you say, pew shows that they (literalists) are the least religiously knowledgeble group, and rasmussen shows their concentration is Southern, White and poor.

    Wow! I did not need a poll to know that. Polls in Europe show a similar relationnship. If you are a biblicaql literalist you know the least about Christianity, other relions, and the world in general. On that we can agree.

    Let us talk reasoning here. Your aquaitance at a Medical School is called by the incoming Dean of the Wright State University School who says she has a pletora of in-state, in-country, and out-of-country applicants and the problem is making sure that highly qualified foreign students are not "bumped". This is really a rather hasty generalization based on secundum quid or antedote. Fine, onus probandi, there is no reason for I or anyone else to think your claim is justified.
     

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