Should the Zarathushtrians Have their Own State

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  1. exile

    exile Interfaith Forums

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    There are 900 people living in the Vatican. So the Catholics have their own state, the Israelis have their own state, and Muslim nations have their own states. Should the Zarathushtrians who are 200,000 strong have their own state?
     
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    Buy your own land, negotiate with the country and create your own gov't.

    Are you the second, or the same Z that thought the world owed them everything?
     
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    Give the Zarathushtrians (Aryans) the credit that they deserve and I will. I mean people have to know they exist before anything. I'll call it Aryana.
     
  4. Etu Malku

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    Most religions greatly outnumber the Zoroastrians.
     
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    Deserve?

    Is that common amongst Zs? That the world owes them?

    Who is supposed to educate the world for you?

    Do you think that this methodology of a whining victim is the way to show you are deserving?
     
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    Probably. They're probably internalizing it so as to conform to you're interpretation of how to behave while their expressions are being copycatted and not look like an ass. I'm sure they all know that their religion is ancient 3000 + years ancient and they were the first monotheists, and they probably are aware of other proliferations influential upon Judeo-Christianity and Islam.

    I'm educating where I can. But they're 200,000 vs. 3 billion Jews, Christians, and Muslims. Schools teach Zarathushtra, but if the schools don't expound on why Zarathushtra was important then nobody is going to give a hoot. Things like "Zarathushtra first conceived of God" and not just that "Zarathushtra believed in God" would help.

    There are no Zs on this site. I'm not even a Z. If I don't play "whining victim" as you say then who is going to stand up for the Zs? Whose going to stand up for what is right? And do you have a better idea? Are you going to be my Vishtaspa or my Constantine?
     
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    So you are not a believer, believers don't have this issue...but you have chosen this as your purpose?

    Looks like the big three hired a better marketing company....as a matter o fact it looks like each new rendition is doing better than the previous.

    Sorry I've not got much to help you with here....
     
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    Nope, I'm not a believer. I'm an atheist. I don't believe in things that you can't prove exist, that its delusional to believe in things that you can't prove exist, and that its a lie to even claim to believe because if one could believe then one must be capable of proving what one believes exists (to others). It's one thing to be able to prove what you believe exists to yourself, but if you can't prove what you believe exists to anyone else then nobody is going to give a hoot.

    It's potentially a trillion dollars a year purpose. How much are the Aryan expressions, the same expressions that are found in the Abrahamic faiths, worth to you?

    The big three are copycats in my book. The big three didn't get to where they are because they hired a better marketing company, and they didn't get to where they are today by being nice. The Christianized Romans and the Islamacized Arabs subjugated the Europeans and the Persians, respectively. But two can play that game.
     
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    seattlegal Why do cows say mu?

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    Oh Goody!

    God™®

    I thought we've moved past slavery and ownership?
     
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    So a greed filled atheist who thinks he has an opportunity to exploit people based on his assumption that a group of folks who created an understanding that he does not believe in 3,000 years ago, which was modified by other groups is looking for support to ascertain some imaginary 3,000 year old copyright is looking for support.

    I appreciate that you've eliminated the need for me to click on your posts in the future.
     
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    seattlegal Why do cows say mu?

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    I'm sorry that you feel that way. But I'm not the one exploiting people. The big three and other marketers are the ones that have been exploiting the Aryans and their expressions for centuries. There were wars waged between the Christianized Romans and the Muslims and the Zoroastrians because the Christianized Romans and the Muslims threatened the Zoroastrian authority structure. And that's what these expressions are really all about, authority structures. What I'm saying threatens the Christian, Muslim, and Jewish authority structures because I'm saying that the Aryans were the one's who invented God. That shakes the foundations of all the Abrahamic faiths.

    There's no assumption. The evidence is limited. And modifications don't matter in court. In court all that matters is that there are similar, not exact, traits between two expressions. It probably wouldn't matter for example that the Jews believed in one God and no devil whereas the Zoroastrians believe in a benevolent God and a devil. People confuse the Christian God with the Jewish God all the time. The back-projecting actually makes it easier to find these similarities.

    And the Avesta or Aryan Bible isn't imaginary. It was composed as an injunction against the drug or followers of the lie and it still has its uses as an injunction against liers.

    The messed up thing is I'm not trying to be an ass. This is just the brutal truth. I get yelled at all the time because people are in denial of the possibilities. The Aborigines, the Mauris, and the Native Americans are sui generis cases the have been a success. They're all getting compensated for third party use or immitations of their their age old cultural expressions. So there's definitely nothing absurd about presenting my viewpoint. I think what I'm saying just hits closer to home because most of the people I talk to are either Christian or Muslim or Jewish.

    If there was a Zarathushtrian state I'd shut up because then who they are would become more visible.
     
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    Actually, I adore the Zoroastrian religion and use Ahriman and AZ (Angra Mainyu) in many of my rituals. The Denkard is a wealth of Akha material and used in Yatuk Dinoih. It was here where we Luciferians found Akht Jadu the founder of the Yatus (a coven of sorcerers who wandered Persia, developing sorcery).
     
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    Crediting the Zarathushtrians (Aryans). That's what I like to see.

    See the priests, mullahs, and rabbies aren't trying to teach us where the expressions they use come from. They're just preaching them.
     
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    From my perspective the big three are the ones who got duped. More duped mofos out there means more money for me and the ACHF or Aryan Culture Heritage Foundation.
     
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    seattlegal Why do cows say mu?

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    Oh, you mean like how a ship will have two captains--one for show--who attends the state dinners and interacts with the passengers, and one who works below decks with the crew, keeping the ship running? ;)
     

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