MEAT EATING CAUSES WARS! Refute it?

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I often think that many people pray ie
"May there be no wars here"
or
"May my children never know war"
or
"May this country never know war"

AND THEIR PRAYERS ARE GRANTED EXACTLY ASK ASKED [like a Genie in the bottle does]

BUT then:
"The wars occur over there"
or
"Some one else's kids know war"
or
"Some other country knows war"

There are scheduled numbers that must occur ---it it simply finds other routes to take so as to occur.

Recently this thought came to me inre Karma pay-back:

Karma is like a knotted piece of rope...and the world is like a barrel filled with these "pieces of knotted rope"...
as the barrel is flipped and rotated and jostled the knotted ropes are coming un-done and also re-entangling with other knotted ropes ... and on and on and on it goes.
 

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still waiting for some kind of evidence to support your statement.
I will try asap.

In the mean time I will maintain that proof(s) are calculable via inference and deduction ---since dying is one of the most important events in a persons life ---even when others rather occupy themselves with other pastimes [while they can]
 

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And btw, if what I say is true ---then you can rely on the insurances companies to keep the stats a secret.
 

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Its a vast conspiracy.
Why would it not be ---it's all publicly traded.

Why Do Fast Food Outlets Have Higher Crime Rates?
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/20...5/18768561.php

Adrenaline, additives, and preservatives in the food, impatience in fast food drivethrough queues, corporate objectification of the customer, poverty are some reasons for the higher crime rate at fast food outlets.

What are some factors causing the higher crime rates in fast food restaurants?

1. The terror, fright, agony and anger experienced by mammals being murdered in slaughterhouses is manifested in higher secretions of adrenaline into their blood stream and muscle cells. This adrenaline, the links of whose molecule chains are only somewhat broken up by cooking, remain in the animals' flesh and continue to act as anger, terror and fright in the humans eating their flesh. At fast food outlets, many are consuming such flesh.

2. The vibrations of those handling, cooking, and serving food also enter the food. Fast food employees in the US have not been allowed to unionize. For the most part they receive minimum wage with no pension, no health insurance, no other benefits. Their working conditions create anger.

3. Besides animal flesh, artificial colors and preservatives have negative effects on behavior. "Artificial colors and preservatives added to food can influence how a child behaves, according to a 2009 article published in the "European Journal of Clinical Nutrition." Foods that contain large amounts of saturated fats, trans fats or sodium can also play a role."

4. In their attempt to market to as many people as possible, fast food outlets are often built in poor neighborhoods in which the rate of violent crime is higher. Eric Schlosser writes in Fast Food Nation: The Dark Side of the American Meal: "the vast majority of restaurant robberies occur in fast food restaurants because they are open late, staffed by teenagers, full of cash and convennient."

5. Those who live in poorer neighborhoods have less access to full service grocery stores, to fresh fruits and vegetables, not only because these stores avoid the crime, and because the poor have fewer transportation options.

6. Drive through queues lead to impatience, and in some cases to actions such as throwing the food back at the clerk.

7. Fast food outlets are more easily accessible for desperate people resorting to theft.

8. Fast food drive through queues are not conducive to personal service. Customers are upset when exceptions can't be made.

The Bureau Of Labor Statistics estimates that the rate of assaults at limited-service restaurants is more than twice as high as at full-service restaurants

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfar0005.pdf

9. The assembly line character of food food outlets ieads to less personal contact with the customer, more objectification. Those who sense they are being objectified are more likely to have an angry response.

From the Huffington Post:

Melodi Dushane... demanded nuggets instead of hashbrowns. When she was met with a "no," Dushane used her fists instead of her words, punched the McDonald's drive-thru employee and ended up in court with a vandalism charge.

Examples Of Violence:

From the online edition of Slate:

"In January, Toledo, Ohio, resident Melodi Dushane punched out a McDonald's drive-through window when she was told they didn't sell Chicken McNuggets in the morning. Another woman recently drove through a crowd of people in a McDonald's parking lot, injuring four. In 2008, a Los Angeles man punched a 16-year-old girl in the face at a McDonald's after she complained about him cutting the line. A Wendy's customer reportedly assaulted a female clerk at a drive-through window in 2007 after she didn't tell him to "have a nice day." The list goes on. Spike Jonze even made a fast-food beating the centerpiece of his music video for Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs" "

From the online edition of Livestrong:

"Artificial colors and preservatives added to food can influence how a child behaves, according to a 2009 article published in the "European Journal of Clinical Nutrition." Foods that contain large amounts of saturated fats, trans fats or sodium can also play a role."

Below are links to a few of many thousands of articles on the correlation between fast food outlets and crime, or the correlation between meat and anger.

Obesity too is correlated to fast food eating.
Isocaloric studies indicate the average vegan weighs 23 lbs. less than nonvegetarians.

McRage
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a.../04/mcrage.htm
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10 bizarre fast food crimes
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...o-fast-food_n_
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Deadly night shift at fast food outlets
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=3993076

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Effects of junk food on children's behavior

http://www.livestrong.com/article/36...k-food-bad-be/

Eric Schlosser author of Fast Food Nation
https://books.google.com/books?id=dU...g=PA298&dq=fas

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http://www.westonaprice.org/uncatego...a-solution-in/

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http://www.americansunitedforchange...._food_chains_/


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Fast Food is known to be energy dense, high in saturated fat and have low micronutrient content [7–12] and its consumption is associated with other poor food choices
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2898050/

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Now, as evidence mounts that the Los Angeles City Council's ban on new fast-food restaurants is so far failing, leaders and thinkers are again scrutinizing the role restaurants of all kinds play or could play in this historically troubled cluster of largely low-income neighborhoods.
Seven years ago, the city pushed through the nation's first ordinance to focus on public health and fast food, at least in part because a community health nonprofit had lobbied tenaciously for the regulation as a way to fight obesity — a problem that is typically worse in poorer neighborhoods.
http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...510-story.html

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Vermont, Washington D.C., Maine, Montana and Rhode Island have the most fast food spots per capita, while less surprisingly, California, New York, Texas, Florida and Pennsylvania have the most total fast food locations.

[BUT THE MAP IS GONE!]

http://www.businessinsider.com/this-...y-state-2012-1
 

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EAT YOUR HEART OUT

The fast food industry's expansion, however, coincided with a rising incidence of workplace violence in the United States. Roughly four or five fast food workers are now murdered on the job every month, usually during the course of a robbery. Although most fast food robberies end without bloodshed, the level of violent crime in the industry is surprisingly high. In 1998, more restaurant workers were murdered on the job in the United States than police officers.

America's fast food restaurants are now more attractive to armed robbers than convenience stores, gas stations, or banks. Other retail businesses increasingly rely upon credit card transactions, but fast food restaurants still do almost all of their business in cash. While convenience store chains have worked hard to reduce the amount of money in the till (at 7-Eleven stores the average robbery results in a loss of about thirty-seven dollars), fast food restaurants often thousands of dollars on the premises. Gas stations and banks now routinely shield employees behind bullet-resistant barriers, a security measure that would be impractical at most fast food restaurants. And the same features that make these restaurants so convenient - their location near intersections and highway off-ramps, even their drive-through windows - facilitate a speedy getaway.

A fast food robbery is most likely to occur when only a few crew members are present: early in the morning before customers arrive or late at night near closing time. A couple of sixteen-year-old crew members and a twenty-year-old assistant manager are often the only people locking up a restaurant, long after midnight. When a robbery takes place, the crew members are frequently herded into the basement freezer. The robbers empty the cash registers and the safe, then hit the road.

The same demographic groups widely employed at fast food restaurants - the young and the poor - are also responsible for much of the nation's violent crime. According to industry studies, about two thirds of the robberies at fast food restaurants involve current or former employees. The combination of low pay, high turnover, and ample cash in the restaurant often leads to crime. A 1999 survey by the National Food Service Security Council, a group funded by large chains, found that about half of all restaurant workers engaged in some form of cash or property theft - not including the theft of food. The typical employee stole about $218 a year; new employees stole almost $100 more. Studies conducted by Jerald Greenberg, a professor of management at the University of Ohio and an expert on workplace crime, have found that when people are treated with dignity and respect, they're less likely to steal from their employer. "It may be common sense," Greenberg says, "but it's obviously not common practice." The same anger that causes most petty theft, the same desire to strike back at an employer perceived as unfair, can escalate to armed robbery. Restaurant managers are usually, but not always, the victims of fast food crimes. Not long ago, the day manager of a McDonald's in Moorpark, California, recognized the masked gunman emptying the safe. It was the night manager.
http://www.karenika.com/book/fast_food.html


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...ConAgra voluntarily recalled almost 19 million pounds of potentially contaminated meat, less than a month’s worth of production at Greeley. An investigation by the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Office of the Inspector General subsequently found that the plant had been shipping beef tainted with E. coli O157:H7 for nearly two years. The Greeley recall later seemed minuscule compared to that of the Westland/Hallmark Meat Co. In 2008 Westland/Hallmark agreed to recall 143 million pounds of potentially contaminated ground beef after an undercover video showed downer cows being dragged by forklift into a slaughterhouse. More than one fourth of the recalled meat had been purchased to make tacos, chili, and hamburgers for federal school-lunch and nutrition programs. As of this writing, the USDA still lacks the authority to test widely for dangerous pathogens, to set enforceable limits on those pathogens, and to demand the recall of contaminated meat.

The fast-food chains, like the tobacco companies, are now aggressively targeting African-Americans, Latinos, and the poor. America’s low-income communities now boast the highest proportion of fast-food restaurants—as well as the highest obesity rates and the highest rates of diabetes. Two vastly different food cultures now coexist in the United States. While some Americans eat free-range chicken and organic produce, exercise regularly, and improve their health, most are consuming inexpensive processed foods, drinking large amounts of soda, and reducing their life expectancy. The contrast between the thin, fit, and well-to-do and the illness-ridden, poor, and obese has no historical precedent. The wealthy used to be corpulent, while the poor starved.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/still-...10-years-later

...Schlosser's incisive history of the development of American fast food indicts the industry for some shocking crimes against humanity, including systematically destroying the American diet and landscap. ... fast food. Throughout, Schlosser fires these and a dozen other hair-raising statistical bullets into the heart of the matter.

...the media, which hyped Schlosser's writing without challenging his “facts,” Fast Food Nation made The New York Times ... that “inside job” robberies at fast food restaurants occur because those they employ — the young, poor, and minorities — are also responsible for much of the nation's violent crime.

...Schlosser observes that while fast-food chains continue to accept hundreds of millions of dollars in government subsidies for training employees, they quietly spend enormous sums on research and technology to eliminate employee training. Fast-food restaurants employ the highest rate of low-wage ...
 

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McRage
Why is there so much violent crime at fast-food restaurants?
the fast-food-chain assault has become as iconic as the postal-worker shooting spree.

In January, Toledo, Ohio, resident Melodi Dushane punched out a McDonald's drive-through window when she was told they didn't sell Chicken McNuggets in the morning. Another woman recently drove through a crowd of people in a McDonald's parking lot, injuring four. In 2008, a Los Angeles man punched a 16-year-old girl in the face at a McDonald's after she complained about him cutting the line. A Wendy's customer reportedly assaulted a female clerk at a drive-through window in 2007 after she didn't tell him to "have a nice day." The list goes on. Spike Jonze even made a fast-food beating the centerpiece of his music video for Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs." (You can find a compilation of restaurant violence here.)


Fast-food restaurants haven't entirely replaced banks as crime targets, and criminal activity in such places is no longer on the rise. (Crimes like this, however, are.) The Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that the number of homicides at "limited service restaurants," which include fast-food chains like McDonald's and KFC, has declined from 35 in 2007 to 15 in 2009. But fast-food establishments like Wendy's and Burger King do see more crime than their "full-service" counterparts, like Ruby Tuesday's or the Olive Garden. BLS estimates that the rate of assaults at limited-service restaurants is more than twice as high as at full-service restaurants. Whereas sit-down restaurants had 0.8 assaults per 10,000 employees in 2009, fast-food joints had 1.8.

Why the difference? The primary reason is that fast-food chains are unusually vulnerable to robbery, which accounts for most of the violence at fast-food stores. Like gas stations and convenience stores, fast-food chains open early and close late. But customers there tend to use cash more than at gas stations, which have switched almost entirely to credit cards. And unlike convenience stores, fast-food places don't always limit the amount of cash that an employee can access. It doesn't help that fast-food workers are paid so little. More often than not, the robber is a friend of an employee or an employee himself. Location is a factor, too. What makes McDonald's restaurants so convenient to customers—they're located at major thoroughfares and intersections—also makes them great robbery targets. (Drive-throughs make for especially easy getaways.)

Demographics play a role as well. McDonald's bourgie makeovernotwithstanding, most fast-food chains cater largely to young, low-income customers. (Burger King's since-abandoned "The King" campaign was specifically aimed at "young adult male consumers.") Restaurants in high-crime areas will occasionally become crime scenes. Fast-food chains become easy places to loiter, which can lead to arguments or worse. "When you've got a relatively uneducated, young workforce and piss-poor management, put them in a high-stress situation—a burger-and-fries environment—and you'll get some improper conduct," says David Van Fleet, a professor of management at Arizona State University and co-author of The Violence Volcano: Reducing the Threat of Workplace Violence.

Customers may feel stressed out, too. Professors at the University of Toronto released a study in 2010 concluding that exposure to the logos of fast-food chains like Wendy's and Burger King made people hasty and impatient. When "fast" food doesn't live up to its name, people might lash out.

The "trend" of fast-food violence isn't really a trend. Any apparent uptick in domestic abuse at the Home of the Whopper probably owes more to YouTube and camera phones than to growing unruliness. But as with postal workers, all it takes are a few bad apples. Goodbye "going postal"; hello "McRage."

http://www.slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/fox-news-ralph-peters-quits-over-trump-coverage.html
 

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4. In their attempt to market to as many people as possible, fast food outlets are often built in poor neighborhoods in which the rate of violent crime is higher. Eric Schlosser writes in Fast Food Nation: The Dark Side of the American Meal: "the vast majority of restaurant robberies occur in fast food restaurants because they are open late, staffed by teenagers, full of cash and convennient."

5. Those who live in poorer neighborhoods have less access to full service grocery stores, to fresh fruits and vegetables, not only because these stores avoid the crime, and because the poor have fewer transportation options.

6. Drive through queues lead to impatience, and in some cases to actions such as throwing the food back at the clerk.

7. Fast food outlets are more easily accessible for desperate people resorting to theft.

8. Fast food drive through queues are not conducive to personal service. Customers are upset when exceptions can't be made.
Evidence for the first 3?? I'd guess specious at best...

the ones I quoted...make perfect sense to almost anyone.... even thou they are diminished by being contained with the others...

Still waiting for some kind of support for your statement that we can....er....swallow...I mean chew on...I mean that doesn't leave a bad taste in our mouth.

You know...speaking as a vegetarian...
 

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We'd like to take you home with us.
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I don't really want to stop the show.
But I thought that you might like to know.
That the singer's going to sing a song.
And he wants you all to sing along.
So let me introduce to you.

The one and only Roy Drage!

The term “roid rage.” Roid ragepoints to a situation in which the excessive use of anabolic steroids creates a crazy, testosterone-driven condition. It doesn't necessarily mean that the person becomes angry or starts “raging.”


Do steroids make you angry?
Using steroids can bring on a number of unwanted and disturbing side effects, like acne, high blood pressure, and increased cholesterol levels. They can also lead to impotency, even in young men, and can stunt growth. Steroids can make you irritable and aggressive, a side effect sometimes called “roid rage.”

What is a steroid rage?
Roid rage can be defined as a condition in which people tend to act aggressively after taking unusual doses of anabolic steroids regularly.

WHAT CAUSES ROID RAGE?
You might be surprised to know just how many people take steroids these days. What was once reserved for the craziest people at the gyms who valued their gains over everything is now being used en masse. Steroids have gained a lot of popularity, even among teenage schoolkids. The Crime Reduction Initiatives group in the UK reported an increase of over 600% in steroid users in just three years.

That makes the scary side of anabolic steroids that much scarier, because it could be happening to people you know! Steroids produce some serious results – which is why they’re so popular – but they can also cause some serious side effects.

One of the reasons that steroids can have such a wide array of effects is because many people purchase them online. The easy access to these products, plus the fact that many manufacturers are just trying to make a few bucks instead of making a serious effort to deliver quality products, means that you could be purchasing products that contain more, less, or different ingredients than what’s advertised.

We don’t have to tell you what the dangers of injecting random substances could be. There are a lot of things that provide different effects and could make a user think that they’re experiencing genuine steroid effects. In reality, they could be injecting any number of compounds that could be catastrophic for their bodies.

https://crazy-bulks.com/blog/roid-rage-frightening-side-steroids/
 

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anabolic steroid

a synthetic steroid hormone that resembles testosterone in promoting the growth of muscle. Such hormones are used medicinally to treat some forms of weight loss and (illegally) by some athletes and others to enhance physical performance.

Anabolic steroids are synthetic versions of the naturally occurring male sex hormone, testosterone. They are more properly called anabolic-androgenic steroids (AASs), because they have both bodybuilding (anabolic) effects and masculinizing (androgenic) effects.

Where are anabolic steroids derived? How are steroids made in labs?
 

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Poor Mr Lance Armstrong & maybe O.J. Simpson too...


Anabolic steroid
History[edit]
Discovery of androgens[edit]
The use of gonadal steroids pre-dates their identification and isolation. Medical use of testicle extract began in the late 19th century while its effects on strength were still being studied.[124] The isolation of gonadal steroids can be traced back to 1931, when Adolf Butenandt, a chemist in Marburg, purified 15 milligrams of the male hormone androstenone from tens of thousands of litres of urine. This steroid was subsequently synthesized in 1934 by Leopold Ružička, a chemist in Zurich.[175]

In the 1930s, it was already known that the testes contain a more powerful androgen than androstenone, and three groups of scientists, funded by competing pharmaceutical companies in the Netherlands, Germany, and Switzerland, raced to isolate it.[175][176] This hormone was first identified by Karoly Gyula David, E. Dingemanse, J. Freud and Ernst Laqueur in a May 1935 paper "On Crystalline Male Hormone from Testicles (Testosterone)."[177] They named the hormone testosterone, from the stems of testicle and sterol, and the suffix of ketone. The chemical synthesis of testosterone was achieved in August that year, when Butenandt and G. Hanisch published a paper describing "A Method for Preparing Testosterone from Cholesterol."[178] Only a week later, the third group, Ruzicka and A. Wettstein, announced a patent application in a paper "On the Artificial Preparation of the Testicular Hormone Testosterone (Androsten-3-one-17-ol)."[179] Ruzicka and Butenandt were offered the 1939 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for their work, but the Nazi government forced Butenandt to decline the honor, although he accepted the prize after the end of World War II.[175][176]

Clinical trials on humans, involving either oral doses of methyltestosterone or injections of testosterone propionate, began as early as 1937.[175] Testosterone propionate is mentioned in a letter to the editor of Strength and Health magazine in 1938; this is the earliest known reference to an AAS in a U.S. weightlifting or bodybuilding magazine.[175] There are often reported rumors that German soldiers were administered AAS during the Second World War, the aim being to increase their aggression and stamina, but these are, as yet, unproven.[102]:6 Adolf Hitler himself, according to his physician, was injected with testosterone derivatives to treat various ailments.[180] AAS were used in experiments conducted by the Nazis on concentration camp inmates,[180] and later by the allies attempting to treat the malnourished victims that survived Nazi camps.[102]:6 President John F. Kennedy was administered steroids both before and during his presidency.[181]

Development of synthetic AAS[edit]
The development of muscle-building properties of testosterone was pursued in the 1940s, in the Soviet Union and in Eastern Bloc countries such as East Germany, where steroid programs were used to enhance the performance of Olympic and other amateur weight lifters. In response to the success of Russian weightlifters, the U.S. Olympic Team physicianJohn Ziegler worked with synthetic chemists to develop an AAS with reduced androgenic effects.[182] Ziegler's work resulted in the production of methandrostenolone, which Ciba Pharmaceuticals marketed as Dianabol. The new steroid was approved for use in the U.S. by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 1958. It was most commonly administered to burn victims and the elderly. The drug's off-label users were mostly bodybuilders and weight lifters. Although Ziegler prescribed only small doses to athletes, he soon discovered that those having abused Dianabol suffered from enlarged prostates and atrophied testes.[183] AAS were placed on the list of banned substances of the IOC in 1976, and a decade later the committee introduced 'out-of-competition' doping tests because many athletes used AAS in their training period rather than during competition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid
 

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Wil I haven't yet tried "ASAP" to find proofs in reply to your questions.
What I have posted since your question ... is just me on one continuous roll.

Even my post below is me riffing ...as soon as I stop riffing ... I will get back to your question.

2. The vibrations of those handling, cooking, and serving food also enter the food.
I solemnly swear to God that this is what Hindu Brahmans seriously think. "The consciousness of the cook is imbued into the food cooked".
"OMG, Who was the cook? Said the Monk.
This is a famous sentiment when the "Prashadam" is most most outstanding, or conversely, causing inglorious scuttlebutt when the "Prashadam" is obviously wrongly cooked. "OMG, Who was the cook? Said the Monk.
 

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Don't see an option under your name to do that mate. Here, this might be toned down enough.
Well I'm a carnivore and she's a vegetarian and sometimes she says 'no' ... does that help?
Is her objection the carnivore or that it's her flesh being partaken?

Then there's the one about ultimate trust, involving 2 male cannibals and the number 69.... Think about it.;)
 
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Yes, we are aware of roid rage... Linking that as proof that being a carnivore is the cause of war... again a dead end.

Yes you ignore the questions and continue down a path that has yet to prove your statement...the laughable part is "PROVE ME WRONG"

We don't have to ... you made the statement that you have yet to back up in any meaningful way.
I solemnly swear to God that this is what Hindu Brahmans seriously think. "The consciousness of the cook is imbued into the food cooked".
It is ok that they believe that... a. that doesn't make it the truth. b. that says nothing about cooking meat except that a peaceful cook might be able to put more peaceful energy into a meal of meat and an angry cook could put their anger into a plate of rice.
 

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It is ok that they believe that... a. that doesn't make it the truth.

I want to make a major note here about how when one party is talking about a subject ---while the other party has no idea about it.

ie: When I raise the topic of vegetarianism to a Christian ---they mention verses in the Bible that says something that they expect me to think is anti-vegetarian. It is at this point that I say "Your Bible is NOT addressing the Subject of Vegetarianism nor non vegetarianism. It is addressing some topic ---but it is not giving a lesson about Vegetarianism"

When I raise the topic of RE-INCARNATION to a Christian ---they mention verses in the Bible that says something that they expect me to think is anti-RE-INCARNATION.

It is at this point that I say "Your Bible is NOT addressing the Subject of RE-INCARNATION nor non-RE-INCARNATION. It is addressing some topic ---but it is not giving a lesson about RE-INCARNATION"

It's okay to argue about subjects that you are not interested in ---but why pretend that you are educated about the subject?

When I raise the topic of the Bhagavad-gita to a Christian ---they mention verses in the Bible that says something that they expect me to think is anti-Bhagavad-gita. They tell me the Bhagavad-gita is false ---so they expect me to think they have read the Gita and have arrived at insights that over-ride my insights. Why pretend that you are educated about the subject?

I am sure I can find folks much more ignorant than they appear that will argue against what I say ---but when I ask them about what authority they speak from ---it's from a source that never addressed the topic.

I don't like rap music ---you know why? Because I have never listened to any of it.
or
I don't like The Beatles music ---you know why? Because I have never listened to any of it.
Q. But if you've never listened to any of The Beatles music how can you say you don't like it?
A. If I listened to it I'd dis-like it more. That's for sure. Otherwise, I'd like it. But since I never listened to any of it, I can tell you it's no good; and I'd advise you too not to waste your time listening to it. That's my learned opinion! Now I'm tired of talking about Beatles music. I am going to go listen to Sports Talk Radio, excuse me.


OTOH, if I said I don't like Sports Talk Radio ---you'd say me neither, you know why? Because you have listened to it.
 

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I am a vegetarian Christian....as are many Christians....

Again...you are off topic.... Your task is to prove eating meat causes war...PERIOD not reincarnation, or music tastes, or sports...
 
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