Some find and confess that beauty was really in their imagination. You say a person can tell you nothing more than their own materiality? You are certain of that? My viewpoint and recommendation is: forgive, rebuke, and don't respond in kind with another crime, to avenge, seek retribution or seek justice. Seek to be better, rather than equal. Seek to Do the golden rule instead of seeking 'just us'. Yes and no. Yes, I expect (presume) there will be a response. No, I don't expect (demand) a response. Based on your words, I am starting to agree. Yes, those who go to a church may be on the wrong track, headed in the wrong direction. If there is no measure of God there, then there is no measure of God there. So it is, "I can't see everything you could show me, or hear everything that you could say, so go away, show me nothing and say nothing." Interesting non-material relationship that Manti Te'o went for. John 3:19: And this is the judgment, that the light has come to the world, and men did love the darkness rather than the light, for their works were evil; for every one who is Doing wicked things hates the light, and does not come unto the light, that his works may not be detected; but he who is Doing the truth does come to the light, that his works may be manifested, that in God they are having been wrought.