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Perhaps, ACOT. It is also because this type of blatant arrogance and sactimoniousness is not to be tolerated, even on the web. (JMHO).

Ye will not think so once the time comes of the shifting of sun, when man sees what always has been and they realize they are dead, saith then thine words in confidence when faced with the truth of thine dwelling. For many in that time shall call out to me but I shall not be found anymore for a time, many will seek to die but shall not be able for death rules them for he has come in flesh in those days. Ye may be confident now as is many of mankind whom speaks as they do in their wickedness being dead but believing they are alive. When the veil is lifted many shall have their hearts fail them even from what they shall see.

As was said those in Darkness can not comprehend the Light nor see.

When you know why I have said the above it is to late.
 

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Why are we responding to this? It's not like we can change his/her mind, and nothing constructive will come of it. Can't we just ignore all the prophets and preachers so they don't take up more space then they need.

Unless you need to unload on someone, I've done that, I get that. It's the internet.

To ignore me is to bring condemnation, for all those of earth are condemned already. The WORD shall remain only a time longer with humanity then withdraw and it shall be shown in what transpires in world for when Sun is darkened as sackcloth mankind is faced with truth of hell they are within. And in those days many shall be overtaken in spirit by the Devil and become as devils themselves full of greater evil and wickedness than now. Let it be known to all of ye reading you were given warning many times by the prophets and saints throughout history of the world, and even I descended and taught world the truth and gave warning and ye did not heed that warning therefore what comes is your own fault and the suffering it brings is your own doing.
 

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get thee behind me satan!

Ye are his son yet knows it not for those dead know not they are dead, thou saith to thineself I am good but in truth ye be evil as is any whom is bound to this world. For man sees only what the magician wishes them to see until the time comes that the act is revealed then their shall be gnashing of teeth and wailing.
 

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Perhaps, ACOT. It is also because this type of blatant arrogance and sactimoniousness is not to be tolerated, even on the web. (JMHO).

Totally understandable, but it's very human qualities that comes with all public interaction. We don't like incurable diseases but it's not a lot we can do about them either. Feeding their ego isn't improving anything.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do, I just don't understand the point, we're just upsetting ourselves. When we can't improve things, let's just turn the other cheek.
 

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ACOT, I do wish that was true. There are times we must stand our ground. Three examples:

I used to make up all of the impossibly complex conspiracy theories. Had one with 13 shooters in Dealy Plaza (Kennedy assassination). Another with a bunch of governments signing an interstellar memorandum of agreement with some ETs. Another with the U.S. government driving UFOlogists insane.

These were all just mental masturbation to see if I could get someone. After the absolutely insane (and very very parallel) stuff that McVeigh (the 1995 Oklahoma City Federal Bombing culprit) talked about, I swore never to do conspiracies again; and to call out those (like Lazar’s Area S-4) which are just as much products of some (IMHO) crazed imagination.

Secondly, I used to just scoff at “public information” (like the Truther scenario or McCoy’s claim about CIA involvement with smuggling heroin) which I knew better than. But then they became “the Jews set it all up” scenarios. I had to answer (“Never Again” is a pretty good idea).

Thirdly, there are some statements that are just repulsive: “there is no genocide, only genocidal acts” in Rwanda, “the Serbs have a right to use rape and torture”, or “there is no U.S. National Security issue with the use of sarin by Syria”. Understand, I am not supporting war or violence in any of these. It is just that such lies must be countered.

Does “onetruegod”’s ramblingsd meet these criteria? No, not really. However, bigotry and intolerance should never be tolerated. I may well be wrong, and accept that.
 

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I ask you this what is your plan if what I have spoken all occurs in your very lifetime, do you realize who told you it and who would know it is coming. Have you considered that I am involved in fulfilling of the prophecy's spoken that bring the end of time? Is it not written that God works in mysterious ways, have I been bold in revealing my presence on earth 'yes' was it mistake perhaps, but it is my will mankind knows I was here and understood what it is like for them. I overcame the world so why cant you? In day of judgement none can say you did not know what it was like for us because I have experienced it all more than any has had too, every pain, every thought and desire humanity has ever had, ever bit of knowledge both real and unreal mankind has ever obtained even beyond what they have obtained.

Now the least intelligent of mankind are those whom hide their head in the sand because they lack ability to comprehend the deeper truth. They prefer to drinks a cup of tea in comfort of their home and think not of the accountability of their own actions, living as they please. To justify their own actions they tell others to do the same so they can be comfortable in their own skin.
 

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I ask you this what is your plan if what I have spoken all occurs in your very lifetime, do you realize who told you it and who would know it is coming. Have you considered that I am involved in fulfilling of the prophecy's spoken that bring the end of time?

I do not really care? My g!d would not be so limited or tirval. If you really are the one trye g!d, I gladly accept eternal damnation rather than acee3pt your words.

Is it not written that God works in mysterious ways, have I been bold in revealing my presence on earth 'yes' was it mistake perhaps, but it is my will mankind knows I was here and understood what it is like for them. I overcame the world so why cant you?

If mankind knows you are here and what it is like… why do not I know it? I believe I am part of mankind (a little patriarchal of you there… “humanity” is a better word, I believe).

I overcame the world so why cant you?

What does “overcame the world” mean? That you do not believe your wondrous creation is somehow “not true”? How can a true g!d create a world that is not? (p.s. would g!d make a grammatical mistake?).

In day of judgement none can say you did not know what it was like for us because I have experienced it all more than any has had too, every pain, every thought and desire humanity has ever had, ever bit of knowledge both real and unreal mankind has ever obtained even beyond what they have obtained?

Say we (humanity) grows an extra digit (another opposable thumb) at some time in the future and one of us hits this thumb #2 with a hammer so hart it hurts; are you saying you know this pain? If one of us has a new thought (like Penrose’s tiling or Goedel’s theorem), you have had that already? Well, please explain Goedel’s second theorem to me, I am a little fuzzy on it. If a cross between Queen Latifah and Madeline Kahn were born tomorrow and I live to lust for her, do you mysteriously “experienced my … desire”. I doubt it. The object of my desire is not yet born and besides, it is my desire, not yours (see Chalmers’ books and articles on qualia).

Now the least intelligent of mankind are those whom hide their head in the sand because they lack ability to comprehend the deeper truth. They prefer to drinks a cup of tea in comfort of their home and think not of the accountability of their own actions, living as they please. To justify their own actions they tell others to do the same so they can be comfortable in their own skin.

Sorry, are you saying those human beings who score the lowest on I.Q. tests (what we usually mean by the least intelligent) bury their hand in the sand? Or are you saying those of us who do not agree with you are hiding our heads in the sand? What do you mean by that? Merely that we ignore your words here (when does g!d need a forum to communicate?).
But, most of those do worry about accountability (is one responsible for their own actions). Many of us do struggle to “do what is right” and otherwise question being “comfortable in their own skin”.
 

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I do not really care? My g!d would not be so limited or tirval. If you really are the one trye g!d, I gladly accept eternal damnation rather than acee3pt your words.



If mankind knows you are here and what it is like… why do not I know it? I believe I am part of mankind (a little patriarchal of you there… “humanity” is a better word, I believe).



What does “overcame the world” mean? That you do not believe your wondrous creation is somehow “not true”? How can a true g!d create a world that is not? (p.s. would g!d make a grammatical mistake?).



Say we (humanity) grows an extra digit (another opposable thumb) at some time in the future and one of us hits this thumb #2 with a hammer so hart it hurts; are you saying you know this pain? If one of us has a new thought (like Penrose’s tiling or Goedel’s theorem), you have had that already? Well, please explain Goedel’s second theorem to me, I am a little fuzzy on it. If a cross between Queen Latifah and Madeline Kahn were born tomorrow and I live to lust for her, do you mysteriously “experienced my … desire”. I doubt it. The object of my desire is not yet born and besides, it is my desire, not yours (see Chalmers’ books and articles on qualia).



Sorry, are you saying those human beings who score the lowest on I.Q. tests (what we usually mean by the least intelligent) bury their hand in the sand? Or are you saying those of us who do not agree with you are hiding our heads in the sand? What do you mean by that? Merely that we ignore your words here (when does g!d need a forum to communicate?).
But, most of those do worry about accountability (is one responsible for their own actions). Many of us do struggle to “do what is right” and otherwise question being “comfortable in their own skin”.

World you occupy now is not of God. Ye occupy the kingdom of the beast, fallen is Babylon.

Those in darkness comprehend not the light. Why then would a person cast their jewels before the feet of the swine, they would become crushed under foot.

It has been lived all has been and suffered, it is almost complete wait until the final day of world and it will be shown unto all but not before that day.
 

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World you occupy now is not of God. Ye occupy the kingdom of the beast, fallen is Babylon.

Gee, I think the world I occupy is that into which I was born (if I was kidnapped and transported somewhere else, why didn’t you tell me?). Is it fair that I was transported to Babylon without my knowledge?

If g!d (or, forgive me, you) created the universe, how can it be the "kingdom of the beast"? Or even "Babylon"? Those terms pretty much have a negative connotation. Even (forgive me) a judgmental connotation indicating the evil one or the advisory has a role.

Those in darkness comprehend not the light. Why then would a person cast their jewels before the feet of the swine, they would become crushed under foot.


Okay, I can only assume that I am one of “those in darkness” from your logic. Why did not you tell me? If I do not comprehend that light is that my fault or yours? If a person was to be kidnapped and kept in the dark by say d!g, would we not place the responsibility on d!g and not blame the victim? But your comment seems so imply you are beyond that.

Gee, g!d, like Elie Weisel’s Trial of God, why should I accept responsibility when, clearly the blame is yours? It is you that have cast your pearls before swine and should inherit the wind.

It has been lived all has been and suffered, it is almost complete wait until the final day of world and it will be shown unto all but not before that day.


Let us look at this logically. Everything “has been and suffered “. I think not, my notion of a final theory of everything” is not so cannot have been. My love of g!d, country, souse, and children certainly have not been suffered (by me, and that is really what counts… suffering is internal, not externally visible.

“Almost complete” implies some “final day of [the] world” (egads, another error by the one true g!d). So which of 50 or 60 scenarios (and that is just from the Christian eschatologies) do you predict (or is that too vulgar a display of power, like the famous reply of Legion to Father Karras in The Exorcist)?

Well now, that pretty much falls into line with the "Great Heresy" of Dualism and the warning by our L!rd Chr!st J!sus of Matthew 7. Forgive me if I pass on your offer and your predictions. They are spurious as dust on the wind; driven by ego or insanity, not the d!vine.
 

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World you occupy now is not of God. Ye occupy the kingdom of the beast, fallen is Babylon.

Gee, I think the world I occupy is that into which I was born (if I was kidnapped and transported somewhere else, why didn’t you tell me?). Is it fair that I was transported to Babylon without my knowledge?

If g!d (or, forgive me, you) created the universe, how can it be the "kingdom of the beast"? Or even "Babylon"? Those terms pretty much have a negative connotation. Even (forgive me) a judgmental connotation indicating the evil one or the advisory has a role.

Those in darkness comprehend not the light. Why then would a person cast their jewels before the feet of the swine, they would become crushed under foot.

Okay, I can only assume that I am one of “those in darkness” from your logic. Why did not you tell me? If I do not comprehend that light is that my fault or yours? If a person was to be kidnapped and kept in the dark by say d!g, would we not place the responsibility on d!g and not blame the victim? But your comment seems so imply you are beyond that.

Gee, g!d, like Elie Weisel’s Trial of God, why should I accept responsibility when, clearly the blame is yours? It is you that have cast your pearls before swine and should inherit the wind.

It has been lived all has been and suffered, it is almost complete wait until the final day of world and it will be shown unto all but not before that day.

Let us look at this logically. Everything “has been and suffered “. I think not, my notion of a final theory of everything” is not so cannot have been. My love of g!d, country, souse, and children certainly have not been suffered (by me, and that is really what counts… suffering is internal, not externally visible.

“Almost complete” implies some “final day of [the] world” (egads, another error by the one true g!d). So which of 50 or 60 scenarios (and that is just from the Christian eschatologies) do you predict (or is that too vulgar a display of power, like the famous reply of Legion to Father Karras in The Exorcist)?

Well now, that pretty much falls into line with the "Great Heresy" of Dualism and the warning by our L!rd Chr!st J!sus of Matthew 7. Forgive me if I pass on your offer and your predictions. They are spurious as dust on the wind; driven by ego or insanity, not the d!vine.

When ye show humility as a little child you will be given deeper understanding.

Earth is not in same dimension it once occupied during the time of Eden. This place is not of God that is why it is imperfect, learn the mystery of the chessboard.

If thou knows ye are in darkness why not seek the light? Do you like being in the darkness? The shadows taketh those whom they can and take claim to rest during the hour of darkness.
 

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Oh, my not one answer. Not really responsive or g!d-like in myh opinion (JMHO).

You lack the ability to comprehend as it takes high level of intelligence to have understanding in wisdom. Way man measures is not true intelligence most of the smartest people on earth never were educated by man.

Comprehending things outside the sphere of darkness takes having ability to comprehend light this is only capable by the most intelligent and wisest people, but to on lookers they may not seem it but it in how they think that it is.
 

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The main problem is that you are postulating that we live in some kind of “sphere of darkness”. But you do not specify what kind of darkness: evil or ignorance. If evil, why did you create it? If ignorance, why do you allow it?

A loving and kind g!d would have no reason to create an unjust place for h!s children. Even the plants of the field and birds of the sky would (if they could do so) protect their children from evil.

If your darkness is the shadow of ignorance, why do you mislead us with traps like logic or math or science? Why not just let us all know the truth?

If we are to doubt our senses to develop wisdom, why did you burden us with them? Why the cosmological proof of a very old universe created in a big bang? Or the geological proof of very old rocks? Why do species evolve? Why (forgive me) the trickery and deceit?
 

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Have you saw the movie the matrix- the concept of being in a reality which seems real and for those in it is real, but in truth it is a illusion like a magicians trick. See your world as the same and what you believe you know is limited by what is permitted to be known by those whom created the trap. That this world is not the real world but is were your spirit is bound at this time. You may wonder why they would create such a lie as earth understand always some truth remains even if it is not fully true. It is real but isn't real but is real enough that you experience it therefore you still learn. There is still some good here for people to cling too if they choose it was given by Christ, all things which are good come from God, Christ lead mankind towards good which is God only through He can a spirit be redeemed and a soul be saved.

The adversary those whom have made this trap of world made it with one intention in mind, to bind spirits and take their soul into lower dimensions of underworlds which humanity would call hell, they seek for all to suffer even greater than they suffer. If people live a life in this world because the way of life itself is sin designed they become accountable by eternal law and can be taken into lower dimensions of torment at death. You may wonder what I speak of but understand the body is simply a container your spirit intelligence your consciousness you awareness your soul can be transferred into other body's to be tormented, these body's are not physical as you understand it but spiritual and the senses are amplified.

I will reveal to you something few know 99% of world population whom has died on earth is in underworld suffering, few have found the straight and narrow path. Now understand it is intention of the Father and Heavenly Hosts to save even those whom have fallen before they fall further. I want you to understand something God didn't make the world you now dwell but made the originally utopia mankind fell from by their own choices in selfish desire, what you now occupy is a twisted version of the original even it elements are fallen.

No mater what a person tells you understand that GOOD can not create EVIL, nor can EVIL create GOOD, if GOOD was to create EVIL it would no longer be GOOD. Understand God as the Spirit intelligence of GOOD and Understand Devil as the Spirit Intelligence of EVIL, but understand that this is eternal and had no point of beginning. Now understand the SON of the GOD 'Christ' as the embodiment of GOOD, and understand the Son of the DEVIL 'Anti Christ' as the embodiment of EVIL.

Because mankind is in this world they are called the sons of the devil, those who recognize the Light which is Christ they become children of heaven, it is he whom shall adopt them and through Him they become sons to God, but few are worthy to be given such for it requires to live as a righteous person in selflessness in image of Christ. Unlike mankind Christ had no point of beginning but has always been and is not a creation but is a eternal part of the spirit intelligence of GOOD which is GOD.
 

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If you show humility I will reveal more, understand I am only on earth at this time for certain people but have chosen in grace to talk to others.
 
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If 99% of those who have died are in the underworld.... I prefer to spend eternity with my friends....


You are funny OTG...asking us to show humility....
 

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If 99% of those who have died are in the underworld.... I prefer to spend eternity with my friends....


You are funny OTG...asking us to show humility....

It was better some had been born without arms and a tongue and were blind for they would have suffered less for would have committed less sin.

What you prefer doesn't determine where you spend eternity, your future isn't good and is known to me and if you don't change yourself soon you will understand the warning. Many thought they were clever and find out in death how foolish they really were, nothing escapes eternal law, all is known and there is consequences for life choices.
 
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