The Soul

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  1. donnann

    donnann Well-Known Member

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    The soul is multicolored light that is a pattern that is different for each individual. It kinda looks like overlapping paint pallets. When you have an emotion the soul will flash in the sequence for that codes. The different color lights will flash in that sequence which results in a particular essence. Your whole soul is love and all good things come from love.
     
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    A Cup Of Tea Well-Known Member

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    If you want us to discuss this you should include why you believe this, references and reasoning, otherwise it's just preaching.
     
  3. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    Good point ACOT. Some people do see auras (which it appears donnann is perceiving). But I believe first, the soul is a little more complex than a light show (equating aura with soul is a little over simplifying) and, second, that the soul, like the mind has no corporeal component. If the latter is true, then there would no be any actual light.

    It could be that those who perceive auras visualize some psychic vibration or some such thing. The danger is "The Fallicy of Misplaced Concreteness" to wit:

    "Reification (also known as concretism, or the fallacy of misplaced concreteness) is a fallacy of ambiguity, when an abstraction (abstract belief or hypothetical construct) is treated as if it were a concrete, real event, or physical entity.[1][2] In other words, it is the error of treating as a concrete thing something which is not concrete, but merely an idea.

    Another common manifestation is the confusion of a model with reality. Mathematical or simulation models may help understand a system or situation but real life may differ from the model (e.g. 'the map is not the territory')."

    From wikipedia.
     
  4. Thomas

    Thomas Administrator Admin

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    As stated above, the soul is not a frequency that falls within the visible spectrum, so what you're experiencing here, if indeed you are (rather than just relating something you've read), then I suggest it falls under ideasthesia.

    Having worked with not a few seers, it's a fact that no two see the same thing.
     
  5. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    I would preface that that this light does not fall within 'my' visual spectrum...'currently'...also that just because someone 'sees' something....it does not mean it falls within their 'visual' spectrum, if you 'see' what I am saying.
     
  6. Thomas

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    Absolutely. It could be synesthesia or, as I stated above, ideasthesia.

    In my Hermetic days I was a 'senser', not a 'seer'. Seers would see shapes, colours, etc. I would sense stuff, as if on some internal radar.

    It's all to do with my root number, my astrological sign, tadah, tadah, tadah ... all sounds like 'stuff' now, but in those days I was quite adept at 'manipulating atmospheres' ... there's a fair amount of stuff that defies logical explanation.
     
  7. donnann

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    Well, it may not fall within your visual spectrum but is present in your body when you have emotions such as love or compassion. When that essence is made one with your body it kinda glows. When you enter gods kingdom it will be one with your body along with your holy spirit and the 4th part that I call black light spirit. Its like genetic sequences. Every part has a code, a pattern that is a duplicate for each part to include the soul. Also if your body were made one with the soul it would have more vibrant color. Say there was a resurrection of your body. The colors of the soul would flash in a sequence of the action your feeling. Along with spirit your body would raise up in unison with those sequences and you would be a spirit of compassion. Say Jesus raises you up to this. Your compassion, set of light sequences, would unite with his and he would raise you up. Has to do with electro magnetic fields and spirit which is pure thought energy, consciousness. Your spirit and soul that is the largest self and is also the whole self is love. All good things come from Love such as compassion. If your soul essesnce were love the whole body would light up. Its your true highest self. The soul is not only the emotion but it is literally colors that for each person is a different sequence of those colors. Its truly remarkable.
     
  8. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    yes, i constantly have to remind myself that just because I don't understand something, doesn't mean that others don't understand it...just because I can't see something, doesn't mean others can't see it...just because I don't believe something, doesn't mean others don't believe it...

    Just because it ain't true to me doesn't mean it ain't true to others...
     
  9. donnann

    donnann Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of the soul. Have you done any reading on the Guf?
    According to Jewish mythology, in the Garden of Eden there is a Tree of life or the Tree of Souls[1] that blossoms and produces new souls, which fall into the Guf, the Treasury of Souls. Gabriel reaches into the treasury and takes out the first soul that comes into his hand. Then Lailah, the Angel of Conception, watches over the embryo until it is born.
    According to Rabbi Isaac Luria, the trees are resting places for souls and sparrows can see the soul's descent, explaining their joyous chirping. The Tree of Souls produces all the souls that have ever existed, or will ever exist. When the last soul descends, the world will come to an end.[2] According to the Talmud, Yevamot 62a, is that the Messiah will not come until the Guf is emptied of all its souls. In keeping with other Jewish legends that envision souls as bird-like, the Guf is sometimes described as a columbarium, or birdhouse. The mystic significance of the Guf is that each person is important and has a unique role which only they, with their unique soul, can fulfill. Even a newborn baby brings the Messiah closer simply by being born. Guf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    The peculiar idiom of describing the treasury of souls as a "body" may be connected to the mythic tradition of Adam Kadmon, the primordial man. Adam Kadmon, God's "original intention" for humanity, was a supernal being, androgynous and macro-cosmic (co-equal in size with the universe). When this Adam sinned, humanity was demoted to the flesh and blood, bifurcated and mortal creatures we are now. According to Kabbalah, every human soul is just a fragment (or fragments) cycling out of the great "world-soul" of Adam Kadmon. Hence, every human soul comes from the guf [of Adam Kadmon].
    The Well of Souls (Arabic: Bir el- Arweh, Bir el- Arwah or Bir al- Arwah‎) — sometimes translated Pit of Souls, Cave of Spirits, or Well of Spirits — is a partly natural/partly man-made cave located inside the Foundation Stone under the Dome of the Rock shrine in Jerusalem.[1] The name derives from a medieval Islamic legend that at this place the spirits of the dead can be heard awaiting Judgment Day at which time the Ka'aba in Mecca will come here and God's throne will be established on the Stone.[2] (The name "Well of Souls" has also been applied more narrowly to a depression in the floor of this cave and to a hypothetical chamber that may exist beneath the floor. This possible chamber has been proposed as the past — or even present — repository of the Ark of the Covenant, but no compelling evidence exists for this and some even doubt the existence of a significant chamber underneath the cave floor.) The site has never been subject to an archeological investigation[citation needed] and political and diplomatic sensitivities preclude this for the foreseeable future. Well of Souls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  10. BrotherMichaelSky

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    The "soul" is one of any number of vessels for the Consciousness. Some would see it as the consciousness.
    Some would say that the portion of the soul that one would call the emotional body; where existence is experienced through emotion primarily, and which is but one "octave" from the physical, and "halfway" to the intellectual body, is where one might see the emotions flashing and making connections and and see them searching back and forth...

    but then again, maybe it is just codes like one of those "simon" machines from the seventies.... :)

    but you are right, in my opinion, the colors do mean very specific things - related to frequency...
     
  11. BrotherMichaelSky

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    sup, wil?

    I like your idea; if I do think its a bit rough in outline...

    I have the benefit, for better or worse, of having had time to slowly evolve from a similar perspective.

    I am a firm believer in patterns now.

    I believe there is a fundamental reality.

    I believe we all see as much of it as we are able, and we are all bound to focus on different bits when the curtain is drawn back. What is important: integral to the system in fact, is that each can share the bit he/she saw, so that we can all compare, and add bits to our own understanding. We all grow that way, no one wins or loses as such; life simply goes on happier.
    If the Win/Lose aspect could be taken out of Religion, perhaps I would see a use for it once again.
     
  12. BrotherMichaelSky

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    Perhaps one just needs to go in the right direction looking for answers - the truth is counter intuitive. There is no phenomena that cannot be named, if you are willing to devote the time and energy to accomplishing your goal. Though the timeline of your satisfaction could indeed be a long one. :)

    Thomas, you didn't come here with language or even any of the other senses, why would you think they would be how you would translate other spheres?
    "Internal radar" is fairly accurate description of what I experience - but its a simple mental request away for the Higher Mind to translate into mental images... all ya have to do is get in touch with Higher Mind.... :)

    Truth be told, I understand all the "methods" being tried, and the belief systems examined... it's quite normal, IMO. I won't tease you as I was going to: you were gong the wrong direction.... The Truth that you are looking for is in one place only for you.... as it is for everyone....

    So as not to be misunderstood I will explain: The human body has it's connection to the energy of Our Father. It works because it is being powered from other dimensions. The connection is the way out of the body... everyone has that connection.... so when I say the same method is used for everyone - I mean it....
    However, and this is a HUGE however; we will all experience it slightly differently depending upon our signature vibration in relation to our surroundings. There are a broad range of dimensions that one could begin experiencing on a more intense or less intense manner....
    It's not a scale like a ladder - its a scale in multiple dimensions... the differences could be fantastic....

    But that does not change the fact that if you want to experience things that take place in a space that considers the physical body to be insignificant, one must be prepared to leave the body.
    The way out is through the connection to the energies of The Father.
    It is INSIDE of you..... You WILL NOT find it looking at the world.... you WILL NOT find it reading a book...
    That book could possibly put you in the right frame of mind for the signature vibration to shift - but it wasn't the book, it was the MIND that made the shift....
    The prelude to a "mystical experience" feels like the drop off of a building for me....
     
  13. Thomas

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    Depends on what one intuits, really.

    I think you're 'reading too much into it', if you'll allow the pun.

    I don't adhere to dualist model that tends to compartmentalise the cosmos. I think it's a misinterpretation of theological, metaphysical and philosophical concepts.

    I tend to an holistic view of the cosmos, and see it as a great big 'Newberry Fruit' — an English confection of a fruit jelly with a crunchy sugar coating and a liquid centre.

    We must necessarily differentiate to make sense of our experience, but we should guard against getting caught up in, and making too much of, what is essentially a man-made construct.

    Inspiration can be like that. It's an overwhelming of the sensible faculties, it shows the distance between you and it, as it were. That's the point I'm making. The 'experience' of the mystical is a by-product, and not, as many assume, the point.

    If you're 'in the grove' as it were, there is no experience as such, or if there is, it's no big deal. Too often it's just the ego, playing tricks.
     
  14. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    It is the man-made concepts (in language and math) that get in the way. The real experience is "beyond". The actuality is not what we think, it is what we grok. Spiritual or mystical experiences are (IMHO) just everyday experience that are beyond words or thought.
     
  15. Paladin

    Paladin Purchased Bewilderment

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    i think i just reached enlightenment. Either that or I'm off my diet for sure. :)
     
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    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    Can one of you send me one of those! I need enlightenment also!
     
  17. Thomas

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    Whoo-ha-ha-ah! (Evil genius laughter)

    With these fruit fancies, I shall conquer the world!
     
  18. donnann

    donnann Well-Known Member

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    The auras have to do with the body and soul on the level of the body but I am talking about the actual soul that is not one with the bodies. It is called the essence. It has an actual appearance that looks like puzzle peices of paint splatters arranged in different colors that is a pattern that is different for each person kinda like gentic code sequences.
     
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    donnann Well-Known Member

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    to elaborate on the Guf. It is the place where the new souls were kept. It is not the place where old souls are recycled. There was only a finite number of souls in the guf.
     
  20. BrotherMichaelSky

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    While I understand what you are saying, I don't feel I can agree.
    Obviously the only thing I have of value to share is my opinion and experience, and the value is debatable for others. My experience will be unique and is all I have to share.

    And like I said, for me the beginning of a mystical experience is like falling off a building. Like a drop from heights, because that is how the separation from the physical feels to me. For some there's nothing, for some there's a floating feeling, for some there is an expansion - for me there is the sensation of falling.
    The reason is because I am not keen on sitting in a dark mind and ruminating what I could be experiencing. For me the idea is to escape the limits of the physical mind; if only for a while.
    Otherwise a "mystical experience" turns into a frustrating guessing session, because understanding is not meant to occur under the veil.
     

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