G!d, G-d.... not God?

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  1. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    I know what I've learned along the way...

    and everytime I've explained why I use G!d... folks have gone "oh, interesting, I see" or something to that effect....

    Except one. He thinks it offensive, he speaks of a Rabbi who thinks it silly...an attempt to try to fool G!d. While I don't understand it, (his offense or the comments of his rabbinical friend) I am wondering what your thoughts are...as Jews.
     
  2. Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

    Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine Junior Moderator, Intro Staff Member

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    WWbbT (What Would bananabrain Think)

    Personally, I kinda emulate His Curmudgeoness with his way of "spelling" G!d since it imparts the awe that one supposedly has in The Presence and it doesn't offend the ultra-/Orthodox Jewish population and/or the more "old-fashioned" Jewish population.

    Then, again, if you have ten men, you have a shul. If you have eleven men, you have two. If you have twelve men, you have twenty. :D

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  3. Aussie Thoughts

    Aussie Thoughts Just my 2 cents

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    Why just ask Jews? I would think your responses are likely to be biased. Unless that was the intention.
     
  4. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    It is a Jewish tradition that some Christians (like me) have adopted. It was their explanation as to why they use it, or don't use it I was looking for.

    However I am looking for reasoning from anyone as to why they use it.
     
  5. BigJoeNobody

    BigJoeNobody Professional Argument Attractor

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    farhan Active Member

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    I think its wierd, and I quite agree with what the Rabbi said. Taking God's name in vain means to me that God's name should not be used for earthly benefits.

    The orignal semitic diety was El/Ella/Allah. And these words are used every where in all languages, as in Gabri-El, Micha-El, Isra-El, Ishma-El etc. Same is the case with YHWH. In Islam we have whole 99 (and some other) divine names which are commonly used.

    GOD, is just a common germanic word, not even a proper noun. How about Th0r almighty? ;)
     
  7. Thomas

    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I just don't get it either.

    I think it strange that a Christian would honour the the Jews by using 'G!d' instead of 'God', but not apply the same rule when speaking of 'J!sus' or 'Chr1st' ... or Kr!sna ... but then you have no problem dishonouring fellow Christians by rubbishing their faith in Christ as God. And moreover, you honour the Jews, and yet you are most offensive in your terms of dismissal of the God of Israel, and it seems to me that when you refute the God of the Hebrew Scriptures in the way that you do, writing 'G!d' is not fooling anyone, least of all God.

    It's the heart that counts.

    Or G!d the F!ther? or the H0ly Tr!n!ty? Th305? D31ty ... It seems to me you're not honouring the idea of God as found in the world's traditions, you're paying lip service to a segment of the Jewish community.

    When I say the name Mohammed (pbuh) I append the latter honorific in respect of Moslem custom, not because I 'believe' in the God of Islam, but because I respect their tradition – does rather surprise some Catholics though! When I was a reader in the Liturgy, I'd never use the Tetragrammaton but say 'The Lord' if the Lectionary used a Personal Name from the Hebrew Tradition.

    I practice martial arts I bowed to the Kami out of respect to the tradition to which I felt I belonged (Muso Shinden Ryu), but I know a lot of Catholics who would fly into a panic that I'd sold my soul to the devil! Luckily, they never knew I read Harry Potter when on holiday!

    (And discernment, my Catholic brothers and sisters, puh-leeze! Harry Potter!? Demonic? Heck ... if you want that, get hold of some Dennis Wheatley, at least he made the effort to get some authentic magic stuff in there!)
     
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  8. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    The G!d of Islam? Allah? So you don't think the G!d of Islam is the G!d of Abraham? not the same? Interesting.

    Yup, that is one... as is this.. http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/486809/jewish/Why-Gd-instead-of-G-o-d.htm and this http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/166899/jewish/Why-Dont-You-Spell-Out-G-ds-Name.htm

    I find it interesting as the page you discovered says they have declared that electronic media has dispensation of sorts...

    As for honoring Jews? Nah...honoring a Jewish tradition..as my elder brother and wayshower Jesus/Yeshua was Jewish...
     
  9. BigJoeNobody

    BigJoeNobody Professional Argument Attractor

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    where did you get that information from me posting a jewish information site? I don't know where you pulled that one from, since I have always said The God of Abraham (PBUH) is the same God Mouhammed (PBUH) taught about, and there is no other conclusion one could make from the Quran. It very plainly says Jews and Christians are of the people who were once on the correct path. Elo, Elohim, Allah, YHVH, "I AM" (english translation), God are all the same entity, different names. A popular Hadith states that there are 99 names, and some if not all express his traits.
     
  10. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    bejesus.....big joe... that response is in response to Thomas directly above...and then I quoted you and responded to you...

    sheesh
     
  11. juantoo3

    juantoo3 ʎʇıɹoɥʇnɐ uoıʇsǝnb

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    Bullseye!

    It is His Curmudgeoness that taught me this, and my practice in this is also a nod to his teaching.

    How is BB these days, anyway?
     
  12. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    harumph.... pounding my cane on the floor.... twould be nice to hear from him....we haven't in a while...
     
  13. Thomas

    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Didn't say that, Wil ...

    Same thing.

    Meh, as you would say ... you utterly refute the tradition He established ... curious ... :p
     
  14. Thomas

    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    We have our Litanies of the Divine Name ...
     
  15. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    I read you wrong....

    I got no issues with the tradition he kept up....wine and bread is common at every Jewish gathering I've been at 'holla' especially a seder... but believing that wine and bread turns into the blood and body of Jesus...nah...I don't believe it...but I've got no issue accepting that you believe it, and believe it to be required ritual....

    as you are aware I do believe wine represents the spiritual aspect of Christ which we are to work towards and the bread the earthly aspect of Christ we are to work towards... the communion, the sharing to be the raising up and seeing the Christ in each other, putting the mind of Christ in our mind...
     
  16. Namaste Jesus

    Namaste Jesus Praise the Lord and Enjoy the Chai Staff Member

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    Watched a Southern Baptist Minister on TV the other day. We may all have the spelling of God wrong. In accordance with his Southern drawl the word may actually be, "Gawd" :D
     
  17. BigJoeNobody

    BigJoeNobody Professional Argument Attractor

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    I have no clue where Thomas's post was before I posted, I was extremely confused as to where I would have been taken as saying that. oh well no harm no foul I guess...
     
  18. BigJoeNobody

    BigJoeNobody Professional Argument Attractor

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    I was growed up in one of them there churches. And if your head ain't shakin' when you say Gawd, you ain't doin' it right. :D
     
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  19. Thomas

    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Not so much that, as you read what you want to read.

    Read me wrong there. I was talking about names, don't know where you got meals from ...

    I know.

    But you declare you don't believe in the spiritual?

    After you've filleted out all the stuff you don't believe in ... what you end up with is a Christ who thinks like you ...
     
  20. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    I am so glad to be figured out!
     

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