In the beginning

Discussion in 'Abrahamic Religions' started by Thomas, Nov 4, 2015.

  1. Devils' Advocate

    Devils' Advocate Well-Known Member

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    Hey chill you two. Where's your Christmas spirit???? Peace on Earth. Goodwill towards all the members of the forum. That stuff ya know?!?!?
     
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    Let's remember we're not here to attack or insult each other.
     
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    A Cup Of Tea Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure, are we?
     
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    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    Extrapolated? You mean inserted a false premise? A fallacy? If in order to discount the theory it requires you to use hyperbole, make stuff up or thinly veiled insult on my intelligence...it is an indication that you feel your argument no longer holds water...

    PS...everyone here knows my formal education is lacking, barely having made it through high school over four decades ago... So it doesn't take much for someone to use a word I have to look up!
     
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  5. RJM

    RJM God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    I meant extrapolating from the odds of 10 to the power 500 other universes, which of course we will never be able to see or test in any way.

    Did you even read the fine-tuning document I posted?

    We are talking about odds far greater than all the atoms in the universe. Not actual monkeys on typewriters.

    Also:
    - the electron to proton ratio standard deviation of 1 to 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (37 0s)
    - the 1-to-1 electron to proton ratio throughout the universe yields our electrically neutral universe
    - the electron to proton mass ratio (1 to 1,836) perfect for forming molecules
    - the electromagnetic and gravitational forces finely tuned for the stability of stars
    - the gravitational and inertial mass equivalency
    - the electromagnetic force constant perfect for holding electrons to nuclei
    - the electromagnetic force in the right ratio to the nuclear force
    - the strong force (which if changed by 1% would destroy all carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, and heavier elements)
    - all electrons in the universe are identical as are all instances of each fundamental particle

    The fine tuning of the cosmological constant to one part in 10 to the 120th is so precise that if the entire universe had as much additional mass as exists in a single grain of sand, it would all collapse upon itself.

    New Scientist: "A large chunk of modern physics is precariously balanced on a whopping coincidence" for, regarding gravitational and inertial mass, "these two masses are always numerically exactly the same. The consequences of this coincidence are profound..."

    etc...

    EDIT: My apologies. How would I know anything about anyone's education? This is a discussion about scientific facts, which I happen not to be making-up.

    And I promise not to flog this dead horse any more.
    :)
     
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  6. Thomas

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    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    Yes read the article...

    And many know the monkey theory...

    But like many things many folk take metaphor literally and think there is actually Monkees!
     
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    Aussie Thoughts Just my 2 cents

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