we've covered this enough times to know it means the Gospel.Injeel? This is an English site.
Salaam Allahikum wa Rahmutallah wa Barakaat,peace,
Hi my name is Timotheus, i am new, and looking forward to some good discussion on this forum. I am a believer of God and a submitter to him and a believer in his revelations including the Quran.
in a way yes... certainly in parts they are revealed, a lot of human interaction in each though. However if it is your belief they are equally revealed, I look forward to discussing it with you in a more in depth talk.I believe that God revealed the Torah and the injeel
No, we haven't... I would have had to look it up.,. There are new folks here who would also have to look it up....we've covered this enough times to know it means the Gospel.
in general we believe parts of both are revealed... but what Timo has proposed sounds as if they are fully revealed as well, I find this contradictory, but willing to let him state his case.And which gospel is revealed?? And the Torah? Revealed? Doesn't the Quran make corrections and clarifications in both according to Islam?
your answer seems inline with the Bahai'i view... I found somewhere where this was discussedFor one. Please don't be intolerant to words that you don't know. And it's ironic that you say this is an English site yet you greet me with namaste and assalamu alaiykum. Google thankfully uses all languages I use the word used by God in the Quran because to say I believe in the gospel(s) usually creates confusion. The four gospels in biblical cannon are obviously distorted and unoriginal. Although i do think there is likely some accurate information in them. Jesus and his disciples were speakers of Aramaic not Greek. Like I said I believe that God revealed the Torah and the injeel. Does this mean I believe that either one is intact or without addition our alteration. No it does not. Anyone who has seriously looked into the bible it's canonization and content etc cannot possibly be satisfied with believing it to be verbatim word of God. And the difference between prophet and messenger is that a prophet (Arabic: nabi) comes from a root word meaning to inform so a prophet informs us if information from God I.e. prophecy, revelation and a messenger (Arabic: rasool) means more or less someone who is sent by God. Muhammad is the last prophet but not the last messenger according to the Quran.
can you think of any text which says anyone other than a prophet (or messenger) would receive direct revelation before Jesus (PBUH). Paul supposedly received it from Jesus (PBUH), to which he professed is God (although I can't remember where he outright says it). this is IMO of courseHmmm everyone who hears anything at all from G!d is a prophet?
do you mind citing what you are referring to?and with all due respect @bigjonobody your link was a rubbish. 'scholars' have no authority to interpret the quran when it clearly contradicts them and their authority. the quran clearly says that after all the prophets have come a messenger will come to confirm what is with them. anotherwords after muhammad there will be more mesengers. it also says that 'o children of adam WHENEVER messengers come to you from among yourselves reciting to you my revelations'... which means that messengers will come after muhammad
I believe that God revealed the Torah and the injeel