A modern IO religion

Discussion in 'Modern Religions' started by wil, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. juantoo3

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    The guy that sees the other side is empathetic, and can at least see where the other guy is coming from, even if he disagrees. Because he can see, there is no need for labels.
     
  2. wil

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    Aren't labels beneficial? In our beginnings and some places today knowing the difference between a carnivore that will eat you ...labeling was imperative for survival...

    Discerning between a con and a viable opportunity....labeling is worthy, no?
     
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    I'm not following...

    Are you suggesting that those who agree with the right are cons by default, and those who agree with the left are providing a viable opportunity by default?
     
  4. wil

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    Con as in con artist...not conservative.

    I dislike the word conservative politically

    I am in favor of conserving energy, of conservation of land and resources...
     
  5. A Cup Of Tea

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    I never said I was tolerant, only that me and my views are accepted on principle.
     
  6. A Cup Of Tea

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    Isn't this a bit dramatic? Since when is hypocrisy a crime against humanity?
     
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    I understood what you meant, it is the same thing I meant. So do I take that as a "yes?"
     
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    Since when is denying someone freedom to speak their minds about legitimate political concerns, and having their name impugned to the point of slander simply hypocrisy? If it were simply hypocrisy, I would not have written what I did. Hypocrisy (to a certain extent) and politics are almost a given...this goes WAY beyond that.
     
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    ...among likeminded individuals. Are you also accepted among those whose views differ from yours?
     
  10. A Cup Of Tea

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    It sounds the same to me. I think it's funny to that it must be different because you said so, are you God? I have so many questions!

    I wouldn't know. I don't know if you're missing the point I was making or if you're trying to make another one.
     
  11. Ahanu

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    Yes, who carries the bullhorns? That's the danger.

    I've been reading a lot of articles online about these issues. "The Future of Free Speech, Trolls, Anonymity and Fake News Online" is a fascinating read from Pew Research Center. I hope you guys have the time to check it out and read this excerpt:

    I'm still digesting this article.
     
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    My comment was following after:

    and

    These are your words, yes?

    If so, then I would say I was still on the same subject. If not, then there is something amiss in this thread.

    Ah! No better argument, so attack the messenger...that too is predictable.
     
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    Intriguing...
     
  14. A Cup Of Tea

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    You and I are so not synced right now, for some reason what I'm saying is really upsetting you and I don't know why. I'm backing off because this is not why I'm here.
     
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    From the article posted above.

    Which I find intriguing how the left now bemoans what they were praising only 7 years ago with the Arab Spring uprisings and the role of social media at that time. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, they wish to cry "foul." Not like this is the first time something the left supported came back to bite them on the hindquarters.
     
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    Fair enough, I thought the reason for this thread was the formation of a single, all-encompassing religion for everybody?

    Turns out, it is really another ruse to usurp power from those who disagree. Once it is seen for what it is, it falls apart at the seams.

    That is why a singular world religion will never work in our lifetimes, unless one is willing to expend the lives of their young men and women and national treasure in a war of worldwide conquest. <sarcasm>Good luck with that.</sarcasm>
     
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    This was interesting....these kids making money off of per click ads found that making up Alt facts (lies) about Hillary or dems were retweeted, shared, liked and clicked on more than lies about trump or GOP, so they focused on where the money was, and the conservatives gleefully clicked and shared and kids overseas raked in clickbait money
     
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    Capitalism at its finest!

    Since I didn't see that part of the article, let me guess...the clickbait kids are in Russia, and that's what this whole stink is about?
     
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    Or, you just misread what I was saying? Or I failed to convey my thoughts clearly, if that makes you feel any better about.
     
  20. Thomas

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    Aargh.

    We have the same thing in the UK, but different. It's been noticed that some of the tory policies in their manifesto are exactly the same as labour policies that appeared in their manifesto a few years ago. at the time, the predominately right-wing press raged at the madness of the suggestions (such as an energy price cap). Now, when the right produces the exact same policy, apparently it's a really good idea ...

    Where are there 'centres' of journalism in the US, if indeed there are?

    UK journalism is almost totally London-centric. It's the voice of the metropolis, and those journalists who do wander abroad discover that the rest of the country thinks London is living on a different planet. One reason why the press was so poor at registering the mood of the country prior to the Brexit vote, because they don't listen outside of their closed circles ... they exist in a kind of isolation and follow social media which of course moves so fast they can never hope to keep up with anything more than the banal.

    I only ask because from here it seems the US press missed the voice of those who voted for Trump? And now he's turning the tables on them, setting up a mistrust in journalism that will take a long time to put right, because in many ways that mistrust is well-founded, in that journalists have lost touch?
     

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