Should Holy/Sacred text be taken literally

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  1. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    We are offering a perfect world and a perfect life. Here on planet Earth? Sorry I don't believe that is ever going to happen?
     
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  2. KnowSelf

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    Who is to say we do not live in a perfect world or have a perfect life when we may not be asking the right questions Perhaps if we knew what perfection is we might have something to compare with. I believe life is perfect and fair on all levels of existence but we are afraid of what perfection is. just because you feel life should be this or that, you, me and everyone else hasn't about life beyond his or her own opinion, emotions are a poor substitute for truth, don't confuse the two.
     
  3. Arif Ghamiq

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    @KnowSelf - do you then believe there is no such thing as imperfection ?

    That imperfection is an illusion ?
     
  4. KnowSelf

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    No I do not believe imperfection is an illusion but merely imperfection exist through the eye of the beholder. God may think there is no cause for alarm regarding this world as the world is doing its world perfectly. We might disagree based on our interpretation the world messed up.
     
  5. Mrs Malaprop

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    I find that when reading ancient texts it's good to allow for both literal and metaphorical interpretations. It's not always easy to know what the original authors intended.
     
  6. Mrs Malaprop

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    The downside of that is that people can just make stuff up, and pass it off as Zen. It can all get rather "new-agey".
     
  7. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    That is where if we have knowledge of the societal issues, who the authors audience is, etc cone into play eh?

    But the interpretation if the text is always contextual with the reader I mean, I may have written this with my meaning but when you read it thru your lenses formed by your life it will spark your understanding maybe far different from my intent. But who cares about my intent? This path is all about your path to enlightenment, your connecting with your higher self to access the divine... My words are simply gravel then...
     
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    Thomas Well-Known Member

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    There's a lot of mileage to be had from this. The world is finite; the world is contingent. The 'perfect' will always be an ideal.

    For me the question revolves around peace rather than perfection. Can we find perfection in the world? No, it's an illusion if we do. Can we find peace? Yes ... but then, is that an illusion?

    The Serenity Prayer comes to mind, and Epictetus wrote: "Make the best use of what is in your power, and take the rest as it happens."
     
  9. KnowSelf

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    Can peace be perfected?
     
  10. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    If we find peace, and it is an illusion...but we all see it as peace...

    I'll take that!

    When the placebo is best, use the placebo!
     
  11. KnowSelf

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    everyone does his/her thing, peace is.
     
  12. Beautiful

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    No, they should not be taken literally.
     
  13. Mrs Malaprop

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    I do care about the intent of the authors, trying to understand what they were really trying to communicate. Why bother reading these texts at all if you're not interested in that stuff?
     
  14. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    Much if sacred text is song and prose..

    Think of what the intent of a song writer vs the meaning you have imbued to a song.

    To me they are all worth exploring, the literal, the parable, the authors intent, the conditions of society (war v peace, famine v prosperity, matriarchy v patriarchy, slave v slave holder).

    Heck there is plenty if scripture that I have a completely differing understanding an value that I get out of it today vs when I was a child...that I see differently when I am sick vs when I am well...scripture to me evolves with me...your mileage may vary
     

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