Addiction, Higher Power, Health & Wellness

Discussion in 'Belief and Spirituality' started by KnowSelf, Jan 19, 2020.

  1. KnowSelf

    KnowSelf Active Member

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    What is the connection between recovery and spirituality?

    Having faith and creating trust for divine intervention. Spiritual acceptance and trust in what cannot be seen or touched. Faith in coping with life & symptoms.

    Why believe?
     
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  2. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    Why?

    You start ...
     
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  3. muhammad_isa

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    Why? A simple word, with a far from simple answer :)
    Another interesting word is "coincidence". Is life really just one big
    coincidence?

    I say not..
     
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  4. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    In the US, AA and NA do use the higher power as the crutch to lean on. 'I am powerless over X addiction'. Not all therapy includes a spiritual component. I don't know success rates of various modalities. Successfully fighting addiction rates are fairly low.
     
  5. KnowSelf

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    I believe there is a universal spiritual awareness or recognition for everybody. During times of hopelessness and desperation people seek solace in God or others of belief and faith. We seek and engage in powerful allies to help cope with life circumstances that we got ourselves into.

    Does God help everybody who asks for help? Maybe not in the way that is expected, but I believe God listens.
     
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  6. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    Everyone can believe what they wish, but not everyone believes or seeks G!d.
     
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    wil UNeyeR1

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    Interesting, developed a spiritual awareness....

    Seems like these aganostics are relatives of Bill.
     
  9. KnowSelf

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    Granted well played. My point is and maybe I’ll direct this concept to, if not god per say what avenue of support do you seek? Inner strength, natural and metaphysical energy? I do not know, however, without god who or what is the substitute?
     
  10. Cino

    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic)

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    But substitutes are part of the problem in this context, I think. It has to be genuine.
     
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    May I ask to people who have no interest in god, what or who do you turn to as God's replacement
     
  12. Cino

    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic)

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    I'm not well qualified to answer, as I'm not in recovery.

    From my point of view, there is nothing that needs replacing. But that doesn't answer your question.

    My best guess about an atheist working the 12 steps, is that anything or anyone greater than themselves could work. The group itself, for example.

    But I really don't know from experience.
     
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    wil UNeyeR1

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    Only one who believes in G!d would see a need for a replacement.
     
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    wil UNeyeR1

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    I personally am not powerless over my choices.
     
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    Growing up dependent on God I see your point
     
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    A therapist may prove to be good--a talented one which understands the psychological aspect of addiction.

    I think that everything a relationship with God gives can be found in a relationship with Truth. Therefore all sciences and forms of knowledge, from philosophy to psychology, can aid someone struggling with addiction (which is a battle against one's own ignorance, therefore whatever vanishes ignorance and bestows understanding in its stead is what will aid one through the struggles of ignorance)
     
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  17. KnowSelf

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    I had a very good therapist who helped me become whole
     
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