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Effect of covid restrictions on dental treatment for children.
Is this because of clogged hospital ICU beds?

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Parents are being pressured by dentists to pay for private appointments in exchange for their children being seen on the NHS, according to a new report showing widespread shortcomings in care.

New figures show that large swathes of the country have no NHS appointments.

Across England there has been a 44 per cent fall in the number of children treated by dentists this year compared with 2019. It amounts to a decline of more than three million appointments. The number of adults treated has fallen 17 per cent, or 3.7 million cases.

Healthwatch England, the patient watchdog, has called for urgent action. The health service says dentists should not offer NHS treatment to children on condition that a parent becomes a private patient but Healthwatch England says it has received multiple complaints from parents about "unfair tactics".

In one example a parent in Yorkshire said there were no appointments for their ten- year-old daughter and husband across the Ripon, Harrogate, Boroughbridge, Bedale region, adding: "One dentist said they could add us to a list that had a three-year wait for an appointment.

"Another told me that the only way that my daughter could be seen would be if myself and my husband took a private place at a cost of £75 for an initial consultation each. This is disgraceful and holding people to ransom for their children to be able to access dental treatment."

Less than a fifth of the 5,421 dentists listed on the NHS.uk website say they would take on children as NHS patients and this drops to just 11 per cent for adults.

In a report published today Healthwatch said it had received more than 230 reports linked to children between April and September this year alone.

It also said that some patients were unable to access emergency treatment and had ended up in A&E: "In extreme cases, one person has pulled their own teeth out, and another was admitted to a hospital because they did not get the proper treatment on time."

Pamela Carr, 58, had to endure "horrific" pain throughout Christmas last year after she was delisted by her dentist during the pandemic. Carr, from Carlisle, said she called every dentist in her area including those up to an hour away. She eventually got an emergency appointment and is now paying for dental insurance. David Wisdom, 72, a former police officer, called every dentist within 30 miles of his home in Mablethorpe, Lincolnshire, after finding he had been deregistered.

"One or two said they could take us on as private patients but there's a long waiting list for that," he said. "I must have made 30 calls but I have given up trying."

Sir Robert Francis, the watchdog's chairman, said: "Healthwatch is increasingly hearing from desperate parents reporting that their kids are missing school and suffering in pain because of dental problems that are entirely preventable."

Dentists say they are being forced to work under a flawed contract that discourages them from taking on more patients. Negotiations with ministers on a new contract are continuing.

(Sunday Times 12/12/2021)
 
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> For all its 1.4 billion people, if they need it. That is the law. 'Ayush Scheme'. <
AYUSH is the acronym of the medical systems that are being practiced in India such as Ayurveda, Yoga & Naturopathy, Unani, Siddha and Homeopathy. These systems are based on definite medical philosophies and represent a way of healthy living with established concepts on prevention of diseases and promotion of health.
https://www.nhp.gov.in/ayush_ms
https://www.india.gov.in/scheme-public-health-initiatives-scheme-ayush
 

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Sorry. I named it wrongly, and there are other corrections also. It is for the poor people, and not middle-class people like us (that is why I know little about it). It is PM-JAY (Prime Minister's Jana (Peoples') Arogya (Health) Yojana (Scheme).

"Ayushman Bharat PM-JAY is the largest health assurance scheme in the world which aims at providing a health cover of Rs. 5 lakhs per family (British Pounds 5,000) per year for secondary and tertiary care hospitalization to over 10.74 crores poor and vulnerable families (approximately 50 crore beneficiaries) that form the bottom 40% (Aup's correction: actually that makes 3.7%) of the Indian population. The households included are based on the deprivation and occupational criteria of Socio-Economic Caste Census 2011 (SECC 2011) for rural and urban areas respectively. PM-JAY was earlier known as the National Health Protection Scheme (NHPS) before being rechristened. It subsumed the then existing Rashtriya Swasthya Bima Yojana (RSBY) which had been launched in 2008. The coverage mentioned under PM-JAY, therefore, also includes families that were covered in RSBY but are not present in the SECC 2011 database. PM-JAY is fully funded by the Government and cost of implementation is shared between the Central and State Governments."
https://pmjay.gov.in/about/pmjay
 
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It is fun for us this side of the ditch when y'all use the word scheme...stateside scheme has a negative connotation (pyramid scheme) we have "programs"
 

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Yojana, Yagna really means something done in the honor of a deity / worship or a purpose like in Zoroastrian Yazata (what should be honored/worshiped. what is commendable, etc.). Scheme was my translation. I hope some people have been helped by this 'program'. :)
 
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Here we go ...

We've clocked the highest amount of infections today, more than 78,000 new cases today.

Hospitalisation is up 10% nationally, up by a third in London.
 

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Is that people hospitalized with Omi -- or BY Omi?
 
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It's an honest question. They're saying everyone is going to get it, but the effects for most will be no worse than a common cold, judging by the South Africa statistics.

So I am asking whether the figure is of people tested positive for Omi when hospitalized for other complaints, or of people hospitalized by severe covid symptoms caused by Omi?

Is it wrong even to ask?
 

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..I am asking whether the figure is of people tested positive for Omi when hospitalized for other complaints, or of people hospitalized by severe covid symptoms caused by Omi?

Is it wrong even to ask?
I believe it includes people hospitalised with covid of all variants.

The problem, is that we could well get overwhelmed again.
We can't know for sure what is going to happen.
Anybody who is vulnerable needs to minimise their socialising, I would say.
 

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believe it includes people hospitalised with covid of all variants.
WITH not BY?

South Africa is sneezing it off already. It's not causing a lot of harm there, either to people or to health systems.

The UK government needs to be cautious, obviously: but scaring people into taking the booster is obviously a desirable option -- and one that is working very effectively judging by the booster panic at the moment. So ...
 

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Today's UK breakdown. 17 min honest stats:

 

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The UK government needs to be cautious, obviously: but scaring people into taking the booster is obviously a desirable option..
..you mean it's a cheaper option?
I doubt whether they would decide to spend so much money on vaccines it they didn't have to.
 

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India (Kerala is our big worry state, and my grand daughter will be there for Christmas. She has married a Roman Catholic).
New: 6,984; Active: 87,562 (down by 1,431); Recovered: 8,168; Deaths: 247 (174 in Kerala).
 
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..you mean it's a cheaper option?
I doubt whether they would decide to spend so much money on vaccines it they didn't have to.
That was not my intended meaning. I know the government has to be cautious and is doing the best it can. I've booked a booster, as I'm over 65. I meant the more scary the statistics are made to look, the more people will be getting boosted.
 

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Around here Omni has not hit hard yet...most hospitalizations are delta or other...

The spike is shutting down ERs.and elective surgeries to prepare for beds needed.

Me thinks the spike is exaggerated slightly because it was depressed a year ago regarding testing regularity. (Today folks who are antisymptomatic get tested to go to events....this did not happen a year ago)
 

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Around here Omni has not hit hard yet...most hospitalizations are delta or other...

The spike is shutting down ERs.and elective surgeries to prepare for beds needed.

Me thinks the spike is exaggerated slightly because it was depressed a year ago regarding testing regularity. (Today folks who are antisymptomatic get tested to go to events....this did not happen a year ago)
I believe the USA is expected to lag EU/UK by around a fortnight?

I also heard argument the more successful a virus becomes, the more infectious but the less dangerous it learns to be, because it is not in the best interest of a successful virus to kill the host? Interesting thought, lol ...
 

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A very good day for India. Deaths below 100 in Kerala, our biggest worry (96), 9 in Maharashtra and W. Bengal, 4 in Tamilnadu, other states 1 or 2, overall 132. New cases 6,563; recovered 8,077; active cases down by 1,646 at 82,267 (31,307 in Kerala alone). Schools opening (not yet for my younger grandson, Standard V, age 10). Keeping fingers crossed.
 
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