The Galaxy Insight: 'The Universe is in Some Deep Sense Tied to Homo Sapiens'

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  1. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    Is this of interest to anyone else? Anyway, it seems to be an interesting channel.

    The Galaxy Insight –“The Universe is in Some Deep Sense Tied to Homo Sapiens”
    Posted on Jun 30, 2020 in Astrophysics, Cosmology, Physics, Science, Universe

    “Today I think we are beginning to suspect that man is not a tiny cog that doesn’t really make much difference to the running of the huge machine, but rather that there is a much more intimate tie between man and the universe than we heretofore suspected. The physical world is in some deep sense tied to the human being. Being homo sapiens, we live on an island –the universe–surrounded by a sea of ignorance. As our island of knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance. But, of all obstacles to a thoroughly penetrating account of existence, none looms up more dismayingly than ‘time.’

    “Explain time? Not without explaining existence. Explain existence? Not without explaining time. To uncover the deep and hidden connection between time and existence, to close on itself our quartet of questions, is a task for the future.

    “Is the very mechanism for the universe to come into being meaningless or unworkable, or both unless the universe is guaranteed to produce life, consciousness and observership somewhere and for some little time in its history-to-be? The quantum principle shows that there is a sense in which what the observer will do in the future defines what happens in the past—even in a past so remote that life did not then exist, and shows even more, that ‘observership’ is a prerequisite for any useful version of ‘reality’. The universe is a totality in which what happens ‘now’ gives reality to what happened ‘then,’ perhaps even determines what happened then ...” etc
     
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    Our perceptions of the universe are limited to what our human senses can perceive. Our science and x-ray telescopes and colliders etc, are extensions of our human senses. If our 'homo sapiens' perception of the universe is limited to what our senses can perceive, does that mean the universe is limited to/by our limited perception?

    The part of the universe that 'reveals' itself to us, is all the universe we ever will be able to perceive -- even in theory. But that does not limit the universe to our measurement/perception? There are paradoxes around time etc, that concern our ability to perceive?

    So is it the job of science to insist such things do not/ cannot exist? Isn't it beyond the remit of popular media scientists to insist so? Because man's perception is limited to his senses (to nature) does not require that the universe should limit itself to what man is able to perceive?

    In this I include all of the spectacular scientific advances that man has made and the instruments and colliders and the wonderful telescopes; I do not deny those at all, but they remain extensions of homo sapiens senses.

    So by limiting the universe even in principle to what man is able to perceive, there's a bit of mission creep? A bit of scientific humility may be in order? Imo.
     
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    Just wanted to let you know I'm following the argument.
    I'm put in mind immediately of Blake's observation of the Universe in a grain of sand, in that everything implies everything else.
    It could be a matter of which side of the elephant you're currently on.
    Right now I've been thinking about complexity theory as a bottom up, self organizing universe, which seems to make a great deal of sense, especially in the light of scientific thought, and the ideas of Taoism and Buddhism.
    I realize of course that this might conflict with a top-down theory of the universe such as I find in the Abrahamic religions.
     
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