Moving to Mars

Discussion in 'Politics and Society' started by RJM, Oct 7, 2020.

  1. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    If you win an election by rigging the results is that a free and fair election, why is the Democrats actively trying to circumvent a free and fair election, if you are a citizen of the US then only citizens should decide who wins and who loses right, so why the sanctuary cities, have you seen the ballot harvesting going on, have you seen the mail in ballots for the Republicans being destroyed. Is this a fair election. And to answer your question even further how much have the Democrats gone out of their way to contest the election result of 2016, they lost the electoral college by a landslide yet they are still refuting the results. Is this embracing the results of an election? They are also implicated in actively spying on President Trumps 2016 campaign and actively using the FBI ext. to manufacture a hoax to impeach the President, that right their alone is a circumvention of the will of the people, the people voted they didn't like the result, they are still trying to overturn the election. The unfortunate answer to your question is, I don't think that either side will concede when the results are in, this is my whole reasoning of people becoming hyperpolarized. Democrats won't concede, neither will republicans, this is heading towards disaster.
     
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    RJM God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Well ok. I don't know -- perhaps the real problem is overpopulation. There are just too many of us.
     
  3. RJM

    RJM God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Have you?
     
  4. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    No that's what they want you to believe, think about it yes cities are overpopulated but factor in all the wide open space mostly unpopulated around the world and spread humanity out over the entire region and the planet will be a lonely place indeed.
     
  5. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    This morning I saw video footage of a container full of mail in ballots shredded with votes for Trump, regardless of whether you belief this or not, mail in voting isn't the securest form of voting, its definitely not more secure than in person with ID, so why are the objecting to this, if most of the democratic world uses in person voting with ID then why not Democrats, and using the virus as an excuse is lame as Dr.Fauci said that there is no reason that anyone shouldn't vote in person its just as safe as going grocery shopping.
     
  6. muhammad_isa

    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    I would agree with you that population is not the main issue, but nevertheless, it is a factor.
    I would say that probably, the biggest problem in the modern world is the financial system
    which is putting pressure on people to migrate .. from village to city .. from poor country to rich etc.
     
  7. RJM

    RJM God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    A CONTAINER full! Very hard to believe it's not a fake. Can you post the video here?
     
  8. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    It could be a fake who know, you can easily find it on twitter, regardless the fact that their is question marks surrounding this method of voting as secure, should by itself raise alarm bells as to why are the left pushing for a method that is largely viewed by conservatives as corrupt if they want to have an uncontentious election, wouldn't it be logical to say that ok the one side doesn't agree that this method is fare, so why not use the same system that most of the democratic world uses by voting in person with an ID, that would be safe secure and will eliminate lots of issues regarding election fraud.
     
  9. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    On this we agree, as such I am busy working on a new system called Counterpoiseism which I will release on amazon soon, Capitalism isn't perfect by any means, but having it replaced with a failing system such as Socialism is ludicrous, Socialism pretends to look out for the weak and downtrodden, but it comes at the expense of losing all your rights in the process. Over and Over again Communism/Socialism has failed the world over. It is not a solution for the worlds problems, its only a solution for the ones at the top who gain complete control over the masses.
     
  10. Cino

    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic) Admin

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    Yeah, well.

    Speaking of assumptions, on what do you base your assumption that "liberal vs. conservative" is an adequate description of all varieties of human politics on this our planet?

    Take my country, Germany, where things are sliced along rather different lines. Our government is run by a coalition of two conservative parties, one left-leaning and one right-leaning. Our actual liberal party is so tiny it didn't make it into parliament for quite a few years, though they are back now. We have a progressive authoritarian party (Marxist-Leninist). We have conservative authoritarian party (the "Alternative for Germany"). Our Green party is deeply conservative, sending German troops to fight in a war outside the German borders for the first time since 1945. In one of our federal states, Bavaria, there is basically only a single party, nominally conservative, but because it is the only one, the positions held by its members are strikingly diverse, some socialist, some right-wing, some conservative, some progressive, some liberal.
     
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  11. Old Faith

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    I didn't say all politics in the world is the same, nor am I specifically dealing with political issues, I am talking about religious issues, conservative, moderate and liberal. The Old Faith isn't a political party, what I am saying is that leftwing policies are finding its way into conservative culture, I agree with you that Germany is a well run country, it's green energy solutions developing enough energy that on some days electricity is free or even that they could even rebate you for the difference, whilst they are selling energy to other countries, as a country who's politics are mostly diverse your argument would be correct, but we aren't talking politics we are talking people, the reason why Germany is so well run is, because it is well known that the citizens of Germany follow rules and regulations religiously, meaning inherently you are conservative regardless of your politics, this is not to say that all of you are conservative.
     
  12. Old Faith

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    From a religious point of view, I am finding it abhorrent that deeply unpopular legislation like late term abortion, or transgender puberty blockers and gender reassignment surgery ext. is finding its way into legislation world wide, this isn't the will of the people, children of a young age doesn't know anything about life yet, yet they can be disfigured and destroyed by the whims of the woke mob.
     
  13. Old Faith

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    Like you even just said your Government is run by a coalition of two conservative parties, which as I said makes you inherently conservative, now how would you like liberal propaganda finding its way into your legislation despite most people not wanting it, that is the issue I am making, democracy is no longer the will of the people, it's the will of the elected on the people, and that is not how it should be! I am talking about the very small in comparison percentage of people globally who are far left liberal who endorse anything from gender reassignment to pedophilia. These are the ones that need to go to mars not left leaning or moderate ext. I am talking about the new age Nazi's that holds the world hostage
     
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    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic) Admin

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    Got it. All the talk about ballots and democracies must have given me the wrong idea.
     
  16. Old Faith

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    I didn't initially bring up elections nor voting, I responded to questions, and yes American Politics are highly motivated by conservative vs liberal ideologies, but that is one example in the world not the whole world.
     
  17. Old Faith

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    Even your Politics which fluctuates a lot less than American Politics works on the same principle left leaning conservatives and right leaning conservatives, left and right is still their but a lot more in balance, but Germany isn't the whole world as well.
     
  18. Cino

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    Actually, the German electorate are far less conservative than the government.

    In terms of individual votes, the government wouldn't have anything like a majority. The results are skewed by various factors, such as votes for parties with less than 5% of the votes not getting a say, or in effect, being distributed to those parties who did make the 5% hurdle; federalism, where small remote regions with few inhabitants get weighed the same as densely populated cities, in one of the two chambers of parliament, the discipline or coercion of parliamentary fractions to all cast the same vote even if a deputy's home mandate would swing another way...

    So agreed, the ruling group are not aligned with the sovereign (the electorate), but you're off where it comes to the direction :)
     
  19. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercur├Žn Buddhist

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    I'm not interested in living in a political utopia. I'm interested in living on earth.

    Which California law are you referring to that enables pedophiles? I know many "conservative" cultures readily endorse child marriage, which is pedophilia imo.
     
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    Hang on: you are acknowledging it could be a fake, but using it as evidence anyway of democrat party electoral fraud? Destroying a container full of republican votes, on video -- that's a very serious crime -- but you cannot post the video?
     

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