Moving to Mars

Discussion in 'Politics and Society' started by RJM Corbet, Oct 7, 2020.

  1. muhammad_isa

    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    I don't know what you are getting at..
    I was merely pointing out that this attitude of either party accusing the other of being
    "evil socialist" or "evil fascist" etc, seems unreasonable to me.

    I don't support either, but would like to see Trump OUT .. give somebody else a chance.
    I liked Obama .. he seemed pretty level-headed to me.

    Politics is dirty .. money is dirty ---> "filthy lucre" !!
     
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  2. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    So where do I look for this old faith tenants and morals and allegory...you know beyond we hate liberals?

    Are there something similar to 10 or 617 commandments? The beatitudes? The shame? The Tao?

    What is your. Golden rule?

    Something other than politics?
     
  3. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercur├Žn Buddhist

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    Those are Trump campaign mailouts, and appear to be applications for a Pennsylvania mail in ballot for the people on their mailing list so they don't have to print one from the online pdf. Perhaps there was a printing error on them, so the Trump campaign never mailed them out, but shredded them instead? It looks like each county might have its own application for mail-in ballots, so these political flyers might not work in every Pennsylvania county. (I'd ask the Pennsylvania Trump Campaign about it.)

    Here is what an official Pennsylvania mail in ballot application for Adams County, Pennsylvania looks like (pdf)
    http://www.adamscounty.us/Dept/ElectVoteReg/Documents/Applications/MailInApplication.pdf
     
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  4. A Cup Of Tea

    A Cup Of Tea Well-Known Member

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  5. Cino

    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic) Admin

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    The far-right wing are alive and kicking. In Hungary and Poland they are running the government, for example. In France, they were close to winning presidential elections. In Germany, they are on the way to becoming the most popular party (not majority, but they already surpassed the Social Democrats, and are approaching the Christian Democrats). To name but a few examples.
     
  6. Namaste Jesus

    Namaste Jesus Praise the Lord and Enjoy the Chai Moderator

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    You know Old Faith, while I share most of your concerns in regard to the left and liberal thinking, I just don't think sending the libs packing would accomplish much. Sooner or later the less conservative are going to be at odds with the more conservative and before you know it, same old, same old.

    I say, just let each side's actions and not media bias speak for itself and leave it to the voters to decide what's best.
     
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  7. muhammad_isa

    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    Och! I fear you are probably right.
    We seem to keep repeating the same historical mistakes.
    It's our nature .. we sin .. we lose our way .. we are sorry .. we build .. we sin ..
    ...
     
  8. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    Lets face it the Democratic party isn't so much concerned about winning the election, that more in destroying the whole system and replacing it w
    Well you can start by reading Liber Deorum.
     
  9. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    What do you define as far right? I am talking of far right activist like KKK ext. do you actually see any of them around ever, what laws are specifically made to cater for far right people, please name some, I can quickly look up many undesirable laws that has recently been implemented to placate the violent left mob, where is the violent right mob, please show them, being a political conservative party does not make you far right wing, and if the voters prefer to have a conservative party and vote them in, then that is the will of the people, the same would go for liberal, but these liberal activists are pushing their propaganda down everyone's throats without even an election, they just mob and riot, threaten and even physically attack those that don't belief in their agendas, then legislation gets passed protecting their rights despite what everyone else wants, their rights supersedes everyone else's rights because they behave like angry children throwing a tantrum. So where is the far right people doing the same?
     
  10. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    That would be the case and normally I would agree with this, but there is clear media bias on the left, the MSM might as well be the liberal lefts propaganda machine, I am not saying that it is perfect, almost nothing is, what I am saying is that if we have a extra option with another planet then this can relieve pressure on planet earth in many ways, conservatives move along very slowly its mostly liberals that move things forward quickly, so if the liberal extremist have their own planet to enjoy, then other like minded individuals will follow suit and go their, everyone is thinking that this is some prison colony for liberals, what I am stating is that they should have their own planet, not unlivable, terraformed to a livable world, that is unpolluted, clean, has infrastructure ext. Basically a brand new world to enjoy, this will prevent things on earth going south so quickly because like I say conservatives are conservative so progression is slow, which is not a bad thing, liberals are progressive by nature thus now they will have their utopia with which they can do whatever they want and live whatever way they want to live - what is so bad with that? This will remove a lot of conflict on planet earth, and for those who believe the planet is overpopulated will make some breathing space as well, the two planets could even at some point trade with each other. And as for the voters deciding, this is my whole point legislation gets passed that no one voted for because of far left extremist pressure, this is unacceptable, the voters for instance decided in 2016 in America's Election and the left is still fighting against it 4 years later, they totally disrespect the will of the people and the rule of law, they determine what everyone should think and be, they think they own the moral landscape without actually even having a moral compass to speak off, hence killing babies full term is fine with them.
     
  11. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    I agreed if you can find them, I don't see any violent far right wing mobs putting pressure on countries to do their bidding against the will of the people, but if you can locate them, then by all means they must go as well.
     
  12. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    But that is what liberals and in this case Democrats don't understand, it's not just your opinions that matter, if half of the country is against using a new form of voting that they feel is opening the door for corruption, then that is a valid point, if the whole world prefers in person voting with ID, to ensure free and fare elections, then why should the Democrats be any different unless they are actively seeking trouble. Which they haven't stopped doing since they lost the election in 2016, they lost no matter what they say they lost and they couldn't handle losing, so they behaved like petulant children for the last 4 years straight, now they want to make more trouble because they know they will definitely lose the electoral college vote again. And as for if the system is actually fraudulent or not is completely beside the point, the point of an election is for people to vote in an environment where they belief that the voting system is as free and fair as possible, if half of the country is against it and their party as well then that is not a free and fair election then is it, this conversation is pointless because you clearly are a Democrat so you will defend them into perpetuity even if their is a mountain of evidence before you, which I am not going to provide because this is the Old Faith Religion not the Republican Party or any other Political Party
     
  13. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    Well you would know your countries policies regarding election better than me :) but if they aren't afraid of conservatism getting out of control again in Germany, why then does Germany to this day refuse to have Nuclear Weapons Capability again, widely it is believed around the world that their is a lot of right leaning individuals, I wouldn't per se say far right but I am sure you have some as well, but right leaning individuals that might end up starting a third world war, seeing as that Germany was directly involved with the previous two. I for one love Germany I think its a beautiful country, that's among the best run countries in the world at present. But still their is this pensive side to Germany as if they can't trust themselves, because Germany of Hitler is long gone then why the resistance to nuclear weapons. Nuclear power is a powerful deterrent for war in the right hands, and a powerful tool of destruction in the wrong hands, thus the question beckons why not as a member of NATO with France and UK, USA ext. all having nuclear weapons why not Germany if not that they are afraid of what will happen?
     
  14. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Never mind, perhaps the next US president will be who works to unite instead of divide. It appears some people are setting up reasons in advance to reject a possible democratic victory at the polls in November.

    But that's up to Americans anyway.
     
  15. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    Yes, you are right the Democrats are setting up reasons to reject the election just like they did the last time, but seeing as that this is an issue between the Republican party and the Democrat party and the People of the United States of America to sort out, and as such not the problem of the Old Faith Religion, this discussion is closed.
     
  16. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    really?

    So the answer is no?
     
  17. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    So tell me, did you learn about the commandments ext. without reading the material written about it, It's literally like making a judgment about something without doing any research into it at all. The Old Faith has the Natural Law as it's Golden Rule, but you would have known about it if you read the book Liber Deorum, instead you attack for what reason possibly I cannot tell, you condescendingly ask me a question and I give you the answer, how can you make a judgment on say the bible if you haven't ever read a page for instance, the same goes for the Old Faith, Liber Deorum is the generalized description of what the Old Faith is all about, Later on I will add a much more in depth book about the Old Faith. But first their is the introduction, Rome wasn't build in one day. The bible took ages to complete written by many, I am writing the books about the Old Faith on my own, and as I receive guidance from the Gods. On top of that I am building a religion so time is quite limited, and that's just some of the things that I do daily. Nor do I hate liberals, I don't invest that much of my self to hating others because that takes away from your own time, emotions and energy, I dislike strongly what they are doing, but if right wing extremist resurface and make trouble again I would equally dislike them as well, in fact I want to give the gift of a whole planet to extremist on the left and the right if they were to become a problem again. Thus I don't really see your issue with me at all. If I hated liberals I would say jail them or kill them is the only option, I am instead saying give them a place where they can be who they want to be.
     
  18. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Which is exactly the opposite of what I really said. Which illustrates the problem.
     
  19. Old Faith

    Old Faith The Old Faith Religion.

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    No which is exactly what is, but you are too close to the situation to see the truth for yourself, the country is divided for one reason and one reason alone, and it has nothing to do with President Trump at all, he won an election, and instead of embracing him as the new president they manufactured one problem after the other to remove him as president, this act divided the nation, if they said ok well we lost, lets be grown up about it and lets find ways to work with him, to make this country better, then the country wouldn't have divided in the first place, but instead they only ever tried to make a divide, they tried one thing after another this isn't how you unite a country and it's people, you cannot simply change agreed upon rules for an election to suit you despite what everyone else thinks, the Democrats have become so giddy with power that they think they are the only voice and nothing and no one else matters. To alienate half the country by using a system that is unpopular for voting over concerns of legitimacy by literally half of the country which isn't a minor issue, coupled with that there is a tried and tested method used the world over of voting in person with an ID simply being ignored by the Democrats leads one to think why this must be!, how can you seek to unite people by doing such a thing, Hillary Clinton even posted publically that Biden should not accept defeat under any circumstance so how is this working to unite the people of America, when you can look at this information impartially then we can talk again, but as is you are blinded by the MSM and their Propaganda, which means you have zero capability of seeing any side of the coin but your own parties, this discussion is pointless.
     
  20. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Wall of text, in response to my two sentences.

    It seems you want one half of the country to surrender to the other half, in order to unite the country, because of what one half the country chooses to believe -- even if it's a false belief -- as long as it's the half you decide on?

    But sorry, these unbroken walls of text are just giving me a headache now, so I'm just skimming them.

    I have been responding to your direct replies to my own posts, but as you suggest, let's close the discussion because it's just circular now?
     

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