A refutation of the refutation of 'an affair on Golgatha'

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  1. Thomas

    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    And people who live in glass houses, etc. Mankind is always and everywhere guilty of that. One can find instances of that in my religion, in yours, in his, whoever's ... but it neither proves nor disproves the point in question.

    No, I'm point out he draws a conclusion from a reference that is inconclusive. That's where the error lies.
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    :D No, it doesn't.
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    Great, whatever .. the article has been there intact for many years .. and now "you" feel the need to point out his bad English, and his bad references by "updating" his work?
     
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    Thank you ... at least we've cleared that up. :)
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    I've already said that I accept that you think the discussion is fruitless.
    ..so is there any point in me continuing to criticize your refutation?
    Probably not. You will presumably continue with Roger to "update" other articles and I will
    lose interest in the website :)
     
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    The biggest issue I see here is that one needs two more theologies to unravel this topic.

    I personally see one needs the Quran and the Baha'i Writings.

    Jesus as a Messenger is not God and as the Messenger, is the 'Self of God' amongst us.

    The Self of God is a station, the Holy Spirit as no one, not even the Messengers know the Essence of God. They are all we can know of God, they are the reflected Attributes we come to know God by.

    Regards Tony
     
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    "...the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise." -Thomas Jefferson

     
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    Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam (thereligionofpeace.com)

    ibid, bold and underline mine, italics in the original. So Muslims believe Allah is a liar.

    ibid
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    What is the matter with you?
    ..and what has this got to do with the OP?

     
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    The intelligent, rational person can read the two posts and connect the dots.
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    You'll have to spell it out for me .. it looks like gibberish to me.
    ..or at best ignorant comments about Muslims.

    You are really letting yourself down. You can't find a decent argument, so you resort to
    defamation of Muslims. You speak for none other but satan.
     
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    The not so intelligent, less than rational person can read the two posts and not connect the dots.
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    You aren't being rational .. you are being emotional.
    Everything we do is being recorded. Every act is judged by its intention.

    God knows my intention, and He knows yours.
    Any sincere person who believes in the Creator and Maintainer of the universe, should think carefully before
    squabbling about what God is and what He isn't.

    Why is satan a loser? Pride and arrogance, no?
     
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    It would serve one well to heed one's own advice before offering that same advice to others.
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    I'm not the one making stupid remarks
    I quote from wikipedia, and you quote from thereligionofpeace.com. [ an anti-Islam website ]
    If you wanted a serious debate about a serious topic, you would not behave as you do.
     
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    I quote from the Qur'an:
    Do you deny the Qur'an?

    A simple yes or no will suffice.
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    Will suffice for what? .. to keep you in your ignorance?

    Do you think that Almighty God is NOT the best of schemers?
    Anybody who plots against others for worldly reasons, will not be successful.
    Almighty God created this world for a reason. Everything He does is for a reason.
     
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    I will accept that as tacit agreement you believe Allah is a liar. Now I am no longer ignorant of this fact.
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    I know what you are trying to do .. divide and rule.
    Sorry, I'm not playing :)
     
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    Too late, I'm playing by your rules.
     

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