Did covid-19 originate in China?

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  1. muhammad_isa

    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    Haven't you wondered why it is that it has been a whole year before "international scientists"
    were allowed into China to investigate covid origins?
    I would imagine that they had something to hide, and were "cleaning up".

    I mean, is it realistic to expect to be able to make conclusions a year later?
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    This article is about one month old..

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...wn-33-year-on-year-stats-bureau-idUSKBN29N05U

    Is it a coincidence that serious disease in China's huge pig population peaked in the autumn of 2019,
    and then covid-19 spread across the world?
    Is it not reasonable to assume that there might be some connection?

     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    International health experts have concluded that Covid-19 most likely passed to humans from a bat through another animal.

    A highly anticipated report by the World Health Organization, obtained by AFP, cast doubt on theories surrounding the origin of the pandemic, including that the virus leaked from a high-security lab in central China, or was introduced to Wuhan through imported frozen food.

    The specialist team of WHO-appointed and Chinese scientists, said it would have been an "extraordinary" situation if Covid-19 was imported from another place, because it had not been detected elsewhere at the time.

    This discredits one of China’s main theories that the pandemic did not start there in December 2019.
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    12 February
    Russia is ready to sever ties with the EU if the bloc imposes new, economically painful sanctions, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says.

    23 March
    Russia and China have jointly condemned Western sanctions, a day after the EU, UK, US and Canada blacklisted some senior Chinese officials for rights abuses against ethnic Uighurs.

    3 April
    Russia has warned Nato against sending any troops to help Ukraine, amid reports of a large Russian military build-up on its borders.
     
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    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic) Admin

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    At least from my country's perspective it's a mess,nothing as clear cut as you present it. We depend on natural gas from Russia, which transits Ukraine. There is a project to build a pipeline through the baltic to bypass Ukraine, but it was a) run by a rather corrupt ex-federal chancellor of ours and b) under heavy pressure by the US. Then there's another project to get natural gas from the gulf region, run by a rather cortupt ex-federal minister of ourd, but that would transit Turkey, whose administration is also currently severing ties to the EU, as well as Syria, and where Iran and the Emirates are both exploiting the same gas fields, which again gets attention and pressure from the US. The civil war in Syria, where both Turkey and Russia, and the US on-and-off, are supporting various competing factions, has caused many Syrians to seek refuge in central Europe, and the EU are frantically trying to cut a deal withTurkey to "take back" Syrian refuge seekers...

    None of the countries in this scenario are notably atheist let alone communist. Putin is a big supporter of the Russian Orthodox church. The countries from Turkey on are all Muslim, and except for the vestiges of Syria controlled by Assad, none of them are secular, they all have close ties between government and clergy. My own country is ruled by a religious party.

    So obviously we manage to have all of this chaos without the help of any communists or atheists.
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    Indeed .. where do ANY of us in Western Europe get our gas from?

    According to the Ukrainian Census of 2001, Ukrainians make up 77.8% of the population.
    The majority of Ukrainians are Eastern Orthodox Christians.

    It certainly IS difficult to determine what is going on "under the hood".
    China has had good relations with Ukraine for some time, but things can change.
    Maybe that's why Ukraine govt. is allowing Chinese citizens to stay in Ukraine visa-free for 30 days between April 1 and September 30

    Mmm .. but HOW big?
     
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    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic) Admin

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    A few seconds' search turned up this image:

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