Is freewill real or just something we invented it ?

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  1. Cino

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    Are there different types of free will?

    My head has a will, the thoughts and plans.

    My heart has a will, emotions, relationships.

    How do they relate? Are there even more?
     
  2. davidsheep88

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    Nope better we kept ourselves in tribes era, copying G-d the wrong way when we as A society are children we are small civilization in this vast space. And we still kill and start wars like nazi's did in this modern age. Were in the wrong path social and technological were taking jobs away from our society. Were in A horrible time when people can't identify the viruses growing and worst social differences seperate us. Everything is wrong and kings and kingdoms are the root of all this. it is G-d who is leader not us, never G-d wanted this for us he wanted us in the garden protected and free in it.
     
  3. davidsheep88

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    Here the way is decision between good and evil. Our mind is the center of all our decision not the heart and you can be emotional but let not your decison be in your heart because it's organ that only works as A pump.
     
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  4. davidsheep88

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    I know some will say use your heart because there is good in your heart, but be a child in your mind because the kigdom of heaven children are the greatest up there.
     
  5. davidsheep88

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    Don't be logical in your mind or math I use math too but use your inteligence but as A child and then use your decision for good. Here we are all been decieve the world educates us as servants to work for the rich and the elites. Our place is not to ask questions but remember no kingdom was needed in the beggining because G-d gave us part of his kingdom and we are all princes in it and we are giving authority in love. No we were in the garden and we were innocent that innocence was Adam and Eve childlike self and purity today were all brainwashed by soeciety to be richa nd powerful and to be acceptable we must reject that goodness and purity he so loved us and putted inside us.
     
  6. davidsheep88

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    So to explain it are there different types of freewill for us all nope only the one by choice or decision to do good or evil. Because we are only in that law, mosaic law and it show A base and that base is trust in the lord way of love and good. But when history and modern civilizations made thier own laws and thier culture the understanding of law from their point of view.

    Thus babylon and the influence of babylon is in all cultures and we do not understand yet all of this. But still our base is g-d who gave us A law based on good and evil, everything changed the point of view but still G-d wants us to do good. The evil exist but remember only G-d is judge and we were never meant to judge any of those things.
     
  7. davidsheep88

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    Base ourselves in G-d way of love and put things in G-d's hand he will fomr us and gave us strentgh and thur our experience put all that in abse of Jesus love and his ways.
     
  8. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    THIS IS TRIBAL SPEAK. LEAVE IT. IT CAN ONLY BRING YOU HARM.
     
  9. davidsheep88

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    Nope tribal speak is speaking in Hebrew and farsi they speak like the old days.
     
  10. Geo

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    Given everything we come to realize, and including prophecy, as we read in the Bible,
    and such as we've discussed in the Matrix thread;
    how can we believe there is really free will?
    With respect also, to predetermination?

    It seems there is, but everything we do in time and space is already a known. Apart from time.
     
  11. Tone Bristow-Stagg

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    Knowing what the choice will be, and designing a future that enables those choices, does not take away the fact we had that choice.

    It just means we are not the smartest tool on the bench. :D;)

    Regards Tony
     
  12. Geo

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    Yes. They have shows about that on T.V.

    "Americas Most Shocking", I believe?

    Even in our daily News.
    Current local news is about the guy who went in to a Subway to rob it, with a gun.
    He was shot and killed by a store employee.
    If only he knew. True?

    Here's a point. The Lord knows the direction of humanity, including the consequences and results involving climate change, and we are given a word about our future.

    We think we are wise though.

    Perhaps lets talk about "the sin of the world", though. Which John said Jesus the Messiah came to atone for.
     
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  13. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    Do whatever, the world will go its way. You are not going to change it in any way.
    Prophecies and free-will are old superstitions. Forget them in 21st Century.
     
  14. davidsheep88

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    Freewill and choice is up to you the path you made is for you to change it don't think your destined to lose or be poor you cna be great like the lord and he's got A plan for you you can put on your life.
     
  15. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    The share-broker also had a plan for my money, I politely refused. I am doing OK without his plans.
     
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