Firedragon
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From what I understand, a hadith can be classified as explicit or implicit [sarih or hukmi]
If you stick to English, it would be easier.
You are saying that they are not genuine .. authentic .. right?
That's a little different to saying genuine or authentic, but yes you could deem it that way. Because even the word Sahih is can be translated Authentic. But that's based on chain according to some schools, while others take both the mathn and the chain both, also while some other schools would give prominence to the mathn. So one hadith if cherry picked might look authentic because the chain seems sound, but in that chain there could be two things called An Ana, and Thadhlees. If you have any of it, it cannot me deemed Sarih although the hadith will be listed as Sahih.
Point 1. means little really. It could mean that Jesus would not regularly lead the prayer .. whatever.
I told you that one has to jump through hoops to justify it.
Point 2. There could be more than one conflict regards Constantinople. There doesn't just have to be one.
That's another jumping through hoops to justify the contradictions with a lot of effort. You have to use a lot of could-be's and would-be's etc. That happens when someone needs to go back and justify the contradictions to suit their current faith.
Many people believe as you do. i.e. hadiths about Jesus return are unreliable
..but a lot more believe that there are so many of them, by different narrators [ heard the prophet [saw] saying ],
that the return of Jesus AS is fairly certain.
I am not appealing to ad populum or minority. It's not just because they said so, minority or majority.
Where I do agree with you, is that hadith about "the end-times" in general, can be a source of fitna.
..but as I've already stated, so can the Qur'an.
It is about considering all Quranic verses and hadith, and not leaning towards extremist ideologies.
But you don't appeal to the Qur'an as one book. These are just general commentary you are making Muhammad.
..and Allah SWT knows best.![]()
Yep. Wahuwa ala kulli shayin kadheer.
Peace.