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1. The message of John for 7 Churches in Revelation is Universal. Like the Pope of Rome (Pontiff) who say "to the city and to the world". Also in the text John see the 7 eyes on Lamb "who are 7 spirits of God in mission on all the earth" (Ap or Rev 5.6). I think it's like in snow flake in 7 churches we see all the humanity. Espiacially in the last time.
2. It is not a simply chronology of branches of new confessions in time or evolution of Сhristianity . For exemple the church number 6 (Philadelphia) stay always before the open door for Jesus: even in the time of last tribulation - exactly in the text. But the next church (number 7 in Laodicea) have a closed door and Jesus only knock inside. Therefore the church number 6 go not in the situation of church number 7 never. I think number 6 is the Сoptic branch (Oriental Orthodoxy) and number 7 still without Jesus inside is the pagan philosophy "not cold, not hot" in the text.
3. All the churches together are like the Natural Rainbow from all the kids of Noe in 7 churches-colors-virtues. The sign of Natural Rainbow for stop the deluge (Genesis). Like Jesus say in The Gospel - "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened" (Matthew 24.22)
1. The church number 1 in Ephesus is Jews . Long time in work and suffering in the text. But they remember not the First Love: Jesus fiance and husband. The Word before the Law. This angel like Gamaliel in the Acts of Apostles 5.34-40. Who know fight against false messiahs, but have not the oil in eyes for seeing Jesus like Messiah definitely. Nevertheless the Law help to refuse the sins very arrogant like Nicolaitans (Nicolaitans have some place in the church number 3 - in Pergamos of Catholics - like inquisition sado-maso and pedophilia). Jesus on the Cross pray for Jewish people except Pharisees (except evil wine-growers). And Paul apostle speak to "Romans" (chapter 11) about holy rest of people of Israel .
like color of First Love frequent in synagogues (first color of Rainbow natural).
2. Сhurch number 2 in Smyrna is Eastern Orthodoxy (like Greeks, Russians and Serbians). With some ascetic way like poor Lazarus. Even in icons the figures by canon have this proportions like 1 for 12 the measure of head for the height of the men (even for kids). And the text say to this church "i know your poorness, but you are rich, and calumny" from false brothers.
NB Here the text of Revelation of John speak about the "synagogue of satan with persons who say to be Jews, but are not". In prophetic sense it is not the Jews now (who are the church of Ephesus). But the false brothers pharisees in this orthodoxe confession. But they are not the angel of Smyrna, because the doctrine and knowledge and practice of holly fathers and councils stay without deformation here. Like tuning fork inside. Not only for orthodoxy. But for all humanity of 7 churches. The fork of virtue of humility of holy Lazarus like salt. For sing together the Song of Moses and Lamb (Revelation 15.3) from 7 notes-churches.
But this false brothers Pharisees with exterior appearance stay only in the exterior court of the Temple (Revelation 11.2) around Smyrna. Like 'lower Jerusalem" also.
It is the cause of persecutions of holies inside this confession (like in the book of Jeremiah people say "if we kill a prophet - no problem: law and doctrine stay with us"). And also the cause why the life in Russia, Greece and Serbia is difficult historically. Also feudal slavery between brothers (the text speak for Smyrna about "10 days of prison"). From Byzantine empire and after in Russia.
Like famous holy father orthodox John Chrysostom say about this situation in Orthodoxy (like in Smyrna) "they falsify what is more precious - Orthodoxy".
3. Church number 3 in Pergamos is Catholics. This church stay around one person - the Pope in Rome - Pontiff. Here the text of Revelation of John say about the name of Holy Witness Antipas martyr, else a bad Balaam (and Balac). If the pope have the human dignity for to be in mission of Peter apostle - he is like Antipas else it is Balaam. Nevertheless even Balaam on high position before people may say something true (for people Holy Ghost do). But after like fallen angel try to fight against. Intrigue. Like also satanic Caiaphas in position of high priest said what Jesus will be Redemptor (Gospel of John 11.49-52) only because someone in this position like Balaam. It is because the people hear someone in this position.
Also who know the Catholic Faith: Virgin Mary in Apparitions in Fatima in Portugal spoke about future holy Pope martyr. Just like Antipas in the church of Pergamos. Also i think this future martyr Pope-Pontiff is one of two witnesses of Revelation of John chapter 11.
Also here exist the problem with Nicolaitans by the text of John. Historically Nicolaitans said "we will sin match and match for stimulate the Grace of God to cover us". It is something like sado-maso inquisition or casuistry of some Jesuits also cruel military expeditions in the world and against protestants, orthodox christians, colonisation, pedophilia and advocacy of it. Nicolaitans like kids and guard of Balaam and Balac with bad passions-"womens"-seductions like womens of Moab.
Jesus in the text promise to judge this problems with crowd from the mouth. Also exist the famous for Catholics Apparitions of Virgin Mary in France in the town of Salette where She take, get the crowd. And She accuse the problems like it: "Pope (pontiff) who like to be Napoleon" and "priests without heart" and "marriages without love" and "womens with false devotion". Also in others places of Apparitions like Souffanieh in Syria and Garabandal in Spain.
Nevertheless God promise for the kids of this Church, who receive not the seduction of Nicolaitans, the apology of white stone in the text here. White stone is the symbol of justification in antique judgement. In general the roman theology based on roman culture with sense of jurisprudence and legacy. And also Catholics have devotion for Simon-Peter - Stone of Church in Gospel. But also Virgin Mary without sin Who Appear to catholic kids and girls is this White Stone. Stone with "My New Name" (in the text) like profound theology about Redeemer and His Redemption with Help of Virgin Mary-"New Eve"-"Concieved without sin" . Also special adoration of Body of Christ in Eucharist Sacrament (before bread) - "sacramental Manna" in the text, and universality of all Body in all humanity - Catholicity in latin language.
4. Church number 4 in Thyatira is Reformation (traditional Protestantism like Lutherans and Calvinists firstly). . It is not just a division or secte like the next church in Sardis. But in Thyatira they have reason to speak against problems like Nicolaitans in precedent church of Catholics in Pergamos. Even Luther said "I am just a donkey of Balaam" (Balaam of Pergamos - if a not good, not worthy Pope, Pontiff in Rome). This angel of Reformation (of Thyatira) is like the judge Samson. He get the wife Delilah from other people like missis "Freedom of this world". And it may be a help for Samson for to be strong and speak just anywhere like preaching. But also this Delilah in the obscure side (like Jezebel in the text of Revelation of John for Thytira) may be a profound trap for Samson. Therefore in the centre of protestant culture is the statue of Liberty with different sides of interpretation (like for "jedis").
Historically and in practice in protestants societies and protestants cultures this Jezebel is free-mason lodge. Who fight against traditional Christianism like Jezebel false queen in fight against Naboth with own vineyard of holies fathers (1 King 21.1-16). Because the real freedom by Gospel is to be without sin, not slave of sins. Therefore is Virgin Mary Who Is the True and Real Queen of Freedom and Liberty (not just a queen of England too like in anglican faith).
Luther and Calvin influenced by this esoteric. Because Luther understood with error Paul apostle about faith like esoteric gift (in itself). Because the Love WHO IS. And faith have the origin in Love and exist not without the acts of Love (Paul and James together). Because Paul speak not against all acts but against pharisaic acts only, like Gospel too. Also the esoteric election of Christians by Calvin with error. Because all is in dialogue of Love like between Virgin Mary and God (and for Gabriel also) in mutual humility, reciprocal humility of God and human in Love.
Nevertheless here in Reformation - in Thyatira the problem of acts and faith have a central place of ideology. And with time by the good acts and bringing of the Cross in this place and sensibility: the first errors may by resolved. Also this churches like Lutherans and Calvinist Christians resolve the problems by experience and divide in itself not more (not like a tumor of sectes in the Bo).
5.Church number 5 in Sardis is sects and divided groups of Christians and others spiritualities in sects. They are not in communion with humanity. And the communion to Redeemer (of humanity) is not worthy with dignity. Therefore like say Paul apostle a lot is dead or seek (1 Corinthians 11.30). Like in Old Testament was state of Samaria without consecration of priests and in separation from the Temple of Jerusalem, but with Scripture of Law of Moses.
The sectarians gurus - false priests - false husbands of Samarian women. Women of Samaria talk with Jesus (Gospel of John 4.5-42)
Also like Jesus say "no one puts a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment, for the patch tears away from garment, and a worse tear is made." (Matthew 9.16). Because here in Sardis without the real sacraments of Church (of new men in Christ) they try just a find a justification in a commandment by letter or particular practice. Like "Jehovah", Saturday, baptism in water, languages, old ritual (in high anglican church). But it is not the true languages and Saturday and the rest. Anglicans also killed some cardinals and bishops reliables in history like Cain who stay not before God and here sacrifice, who say, but do not. And continual separation and division like tumor on body. Situation of Anathema.
Nevertheless here stay some good Samaritans in white (the puritans ask white too, but not all are it). Because the holly fathers say what the essence of any heresy is the false compassion to Jesus with Cross. But good Samaritains are not in falsa compassion by heart (even if formally repeat something false). The heart is pure and repeat not the error of Sardis in reality. Poison of gurus destroy not some good samaritans with real devotion for compassion to neighbor in all humanity in Redemption. Redemption for Adam and Eve with true shame for sin and not in shame for Cross.
Also Sapphira and Ananias was dead - Acts 5.1-11. But it not only Sardis but all false persons in 7 churches (like Jezebel and Nicolaitans and "false Jews").
6. Church number 6 in Philadelphia is "Oriental Orthodoxy" like Coptic, Syrian, Ethiopian, Armenian churches - this branch.. They have not a great force by appearance, but stay strong like column between not friendly peoples. The canon of icons here is 1 to 4 the head to height of person. And all holy humans are like little Zacchaeus with open door between him and Jesus. Like text of Revelation say about always open door for this church. Also about key of David. Justly like the form of cross in Ethiopian tradition.
Also by tradition this churches are Holy of holies without the door and even inscription on arch "this the door of Heaven" above. For example church number 2 - Eastern Byzantine Orthodoxy (Smyrna) also have Holly of hollies inside the temple by tradition, but with door.
With childlike spirituality and languages here, but clever. Matthew 11.25 "At that time Jesus made answer and said, I give praise to you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have kept these things secret from the wise and the men of learning, and have made them clear to little children". They are not really monophysites (because it is real heresy). But historically in semito-hamitic languages the word "nature" and "face" or "personality" is the same. And it was a theological confusion here. And they cray divide Jesus even in idea in 2 natures. For not divide between Jesus and this church, but stay together like kids.
By tradition someone who respond to Father of Jesus with heart of kid may not already go in perdition. Little beat like king David. Even in very hard temptation and error.
Nevertheless Jesus say "I send you like sheeps between wolves, therefore you should be harmless like dove and wise like serpents" (Matthew 10.16). And this churches should resolve the problem with monophysitism like a shadow of confusion. Like text of Revelation say to Philadelphia "see for no one may rape your crown".
Also here is the reserve of the oldest christian tradition from apostles. Like tuning fork, but made from wind instrument. Also here is the humility of kid like vertu of Oriental Orthodoxy. And in Eastern Orthodoxy (church number 2 in Smyrna) is ascetic humility.
And text promise a "New Name" here: In aramaic Holy Ghost Is female word (like in hebrew). And in syriac church and also holy fathers from this traditions (coptic too) say directly what Holly Ghost Is The God-Mother. "Opened to Babies". It The Help for resolve the historical division between Christians of West and East in theology of Trinity. (Problem of "filioque" not true introduced by Catholics).
7. Church number 7 in Laodicea is pagan philosophy like Buddhism, Taoism, even formally monotheistic like traditional Islam and other (from Areopagus of Athens and Wise mens in Christmas). When the first Church - Jews (in Ephesus) remember the creation of Saturday without evil. But all the pagan peoples remember not cause Babylon tower. And they see the world with corruption of evil and sin. And do the error to consider 2 principles of been - good and bad. "You are not hot, not cold" say the text of Revelation to Laodicea.
Also when they build the Babylon tower they become to consider the capacities like "gods". Not Love Who Create. And they receive a pantheon of capacities with division in good and evil inside. False "richness" in text of Revelation of John here.
We see it "not cold, not hot" in all pagan systems like Taoism with Yin and Yang. Or Greek Aristotle who consider virtue like the middle between extremities of one (or another) capacity (exemple - not long and not short by Aristotle). But Jesus say to Laodicea to pass in the eye of the needle (between Scylla and Charybdis in Homer's Odyssey: Odyssey like Laodicea too). Also in pagan medicine of Africa the virtue of warm. Or for Indians of America the virtue between a snake and a bird. But Jesus say in Matthew 10.16 "I send you like sheep in the midst of wolves: therefore you should be wise as serpents and harmless as doves' like Revelation say to Laodicea "I would you are cold or hot".
They should "buy" (in the text) the Gospel for the gifts of 3 Wise men in Christmas. Without 666 of Herod and Pharisees (idols of they-self: human is created the day number 6). And return not in the side of pagan cruelty like "Herod" terrorist and killer of kids.
This church is not Christian and not even Jews. Therefore here in the text Jesus Humble say - I am outside and knock on the door only. By heart. Also by goodness and harvests (what Paul say in Areopagus too). Or also by punishment too in the text for Laodicea.
But in the good side this cultures remember something from the religion of Noe like Hinduism with water and animals and commandement "kill not" and natural Rainbow with colors. Or from Abraham (and Christians) like Islam. Also from Jews captives in Babylon like after 3 Wise men in Christmas. And directly receive a good inspiration like Paul say to Romans 8.19 what all nature wait and aspire the return for the liberty and dignity of sons of God.
Too Buddhism. I think Buddha is just the story of Moses in the castle of pharaon without knowledge of suffering of people. But not linked directly only for Jews. And after the Wise men in Christmas are like Tibetan Buddhists who search a new Dalai Lama with toys (toys - animals, meanings too) of precedent. Like Jesus in one sens Is the "New Moses" too.
And Jesus invite this church to communion with Him in the text of Revelation. And Jesus search wash the feet of ignorance (like Paul in Areopagus too). Jesus like accomplishment of any good talent of any culture like in 3 Wise Men of Christmas. And any culture (like any color of Natural Rainbow) of sons of Noe say "you kill not" against the beast savage in hypocrisy who want destroy all. Genesis 9.5 " And for your blood, which is your life, will I take payment; from every beast I will take it, and from every man will I take payment for the blood of his brother-man."
Like in the Gospel of John (19.11) Jesus say what the sin of Pharisees is heavier what the sin of pagan Pilate ("not hot, not cold" with some trying to help Jesus without resolution and perseverance).
8. Also it is good to compare the churches with 7 virtues, colors of Rainbow of Noe. 7 musical notes of Song of Lamb and Moses (Revelation 15.3). The violet in synagogues and red in Islam, Hinduism, in Africa, Indians of America, Buddhistes too. And musical note B in Jews songs or note C in "Om" of Buddhists and Hindus. Materials for expression (for evangelize finaly) of Temple in Jerusalem too (4 metals and 3 fabrics-textiles). Also the parties of One United Body of Christ:
1. Jews is forehead and ears with hair around ears and prayer on forehead. The capacities in sciences too like some exterior sign.
2. Orthodoxes - eyes with icons and contemplation fine
3. Catholics like mouth and nose. The Pope (Pontiff) may say the doctrine without error ("ex-cafedra") in catholic faith. Also the notion of taste in french and Italian cultures. The taste of communion with dignity and distinction of spirits too.
4. Reformation like hands and heart in work. Even industrial capacities of countries of Reformation like some exterior sign. "Heart of Lion" like image of king.
5. Puritanism and sectarian movements. Nevertheless here for some sincere persons the hands of nurses in condescension of good samaritans and samaritan women with water for Jesus and his stomach. Satiation.
6. Oriental Orthodoxy of Copts, Ethiopians, Armenians, Syrians. Lower of abdomen. Womb. Spirit of kids. Maternity.
7. Pagan Philosophers and Cultures are only like embryos and fetus. They should born from the pelvis and hips. And go by foots like 3 Wise men in Christmas.
9. About Islam. Some greek philosophers was formally monotheists. Also a period in history of Egypt antique and in the first chinese dynasty too. But it more like a one of pagan "gods" stay alone with all power in imagination. But inside it is not a affirmation clear of One Principle of Goodness and what the evil is nothing - not God and not creation (only absence, perversion and suicide - abomination of desolation - the state of Judas Iscariot). Love Humble Without division inside IS The God. But in Islam is not still It. Therefore i classify the traditional Islam in Laodicea. Even in first time Islam was more radical and for example Holy John Damascene class earlier Islam like heresy number 101: therefore it was the state of Sardis. But in the malignance of islamism and terrorism it is not a church (not culture of Noe with "you kill not"), but with others asian kamikazes is the beast number 3 like leopard in the book of Daniel.
10. All Humanity in Redemption Is Church for Unity (Like Light from 7 Colors of Natural Rainbow of Noe). Because Jesus say "All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven to men, but only the blashemy against Holy Ghost will not be forgiven... neither in this world, naither in the world to come" (Matthew 12.31-32). It is Pharisees in sin of hypocrisy who know what they do like the evil wine-growers. And Jesus have not 3 cheeks for to be crucified always without Judgement. Therefore any human person who is not against Holy Ghost: he, she "hear what the Spirit say to churches" even little beat. And have a true hope of salvation and forgiveness between 7 churches. The Church.
11. Bible (king James version). Wisdom of Solomon chapter 1:
20 Instead whereof thou feddest thine own people with angels' food, and didst send them from heaven bread prepared without their labour, able to content every man's delight, and agreeing to every taste.
21 For thy sustenance declared thy sweetness unto thy children, and serving to the appetite of the eater, tempered itself to every man's liking. Instead whereof thou feddest thine own people with angels' food, and didst send them from heaven bread prepared without their labour, able to content every man's delight, and agreeing to every taste.
For The Communion of One Body of Jesus Christ in Dignity without 666 of hypocrisy of pharisees. Multiplication of Talent of Redemption Together.
1. Ephesus - Jews
2. Smyrna - Eastern Orthodoxy (like Greeks. Russians and Serbians)
3. Pergamos - Catholics
4. Thyatira - Reformation (Lutherans, Calvinists, in party Anglicans) - Traditional Protestantism
5. Sardis - sectarian movements and Puritans (in party Anglicans too)
6. Philadelphia - Oriental Orthodoxy (like Copts, Ethiopians, Armenians, Syrians)
7. Laodicea - pagan Philosophy in general. Buddhism too. Even traditional Islam like antique monotheism in Greek philosophy and during some periods in Egypt and China. Pagan Wise men should find the way of star of Christmas.
Revelation of John chapters 2 and 3:
2.1 To the angel of the church in Ephesus say: These things says he who has the seven stars in his right hand, who is walking in the middle of the seven gold lights: 2 I have knowledge of your doings, and of your hard work and long waiting, and that you will not put up with evil men, and have put to the test those who say they are Apostles and are not, and have seen that they are false; 3 And you have the power of waiting, and have undergone trouble because of my name, without weariness. 4 But I have this against you, that you are turned away from your first love. 5 So keep in mind where you were at first, and be changed in heart and do the first works; or I will come to you, and will take away your light from its place, if your hearts are not changed. 6 But at least you have the credit of hating the works of the Nicolaitans, as I do. 7 He who has ears, let him give ear to what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give of the fruit of the tree of life, which is in the Paradise of God.
8 And to the angel of the church in Smyrna say: These things says the first and the last, who was dead and is living: 9 I have knowledge of your troubles and how poor you are (but you have true wealth), and the evil words of those who say they are Jews, and are not, but are a Synagogue of Satan. 10 Have no fear of the things which you will have to undergo: see, the Evil One will send some of you into prison, so that you may be put to the test; and you will have great trouble for ten days. Be true till death, and I will give you the crown of life. 11 He who has ears, let him give ear to what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not come under the power of the second death.
12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos say: These things says he who has the sharp two-edged sword: 13 I have knowledge that your living-place is where Satan has his seat: and you are true to my name, and were not turned away from your faith in me, even in the days of Antipas, my true witness, who was put to death among you, where Satan has his place. 14 But I have some things against you, because you have with you those who keep the teaching of Balaam, by whose suggestion Balak made the children of Israel go out of the right way, taking food which was offered to false gods, and going after the desires of the flesh. 15 And you have those who keep the teaching of the Nicolaitans. 16 See, then, that you have a change of heart; or I will come to you quickly, and will make war against them with the sword of my mouth. 17 He who has ears, let him give ear to what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give of the secret manna, and I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name, of which no one has knowledge but he to whom it is given.
18 And to the angel of the church in Thyatira say: These things says the Son of God, whose eyes are like a flame of fire, and his feet like polished brass: 19 I have knowledge of your works, and your love and faith and help and strength in trouble, and that your last works are more than the first. 20 But I have this against you, that you let the woman Jezebel say she is a prophet and give false teaching, making my servants go after the desires of the flesh and take food offered to false gods. 21 And I gave her time for a change of heart, but she has no mind to give up her unclean ways. 22 See, I will put her into a bed, and those who make themselves unclean with her, into great trouble, if they go on with her works. 23 And I will put her children to death; and all the churches will see that I am he who makes search into the secret thoughts and hearts of men: and I will give to every one of you the reward of your works. 24 But to you I say, to the rest in Thyatira, even to those who have not this teaching, and have no knowledge of the secrets of Satan, as they say; I put on you no other weight. 25 But what you have, keep safe till I come. 26 He who overcomes, and keeps my works to the end, to him I will give rule over the nations, 27 And he will be ruling them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of the potter they will be broken, even as I have power from my Father: 28 And I will give him the morning star. 29 He who has ears, let him give ear to what the Spirit says to the churches.
3.1 And to the angel of the church in Sardis say: These things says he who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: I have knowledge of your works, that you seem to be living but are dead. 2 Be on the watch, and make strong the rest of the things which are near to death; because as judged by me your works have not come up to God's measure. 3 Keep in mind, then, the teaching which was given to you, and be ruled by it and have a change of heart. If then you do not keep watch, I will come like a thief, and you will have no knowledge of the hour when I will come on you. 4 But you have some names in Sardis who have kept clean their robes; and as a reward they will go in white with me. 5 He who overcomes will be dressed in white, and I will not take his name from the book of life, and I will give witness to his name before my Father, and before his angels. 6 He who has ears, let him give ear to what the Spirit says to the churches.
7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia say: These things says he who is holy, he who is true, he who has the key of David, opening the door so that it may be shut by no one, and shutting it so that it may be open to no one. 8 I have knowledge of your works (see, I have put before you an open door which may be shut by no one), and that you have a little strength, and have kept my word, and have been true to my name. 9 See, I will make those of the Synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews, and are not, but say what is false; I will make them come and give worship before your feet, and see my love for you. 10 Because you have kept my word in quiet strength, I will keep you from the hour of testing which is coming on all the world, to put to the test those who are on earth. 11 I come quickly: keep that which you have, so that no one may take your crown. 12 Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the house of my God, and he will go out no more: and I will put on him the name of my God, and the name of the town of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God, and my new name. 13 He who has ears, let him give ear to what the Spirit says to the churches.
14 And to the angel of the church in Laodicea say: These things says the true and certain witness, the head of God's new order: 15 I have knowledge of your works, that you are not cold or warm: it would be better if you were cold or warm. 16 So because you are not one thing or the other, I will have no more to do with you. 17 For you say, I have wealth, and have got together goods and land, and have need of nothing; and you are not conscious of your sad and unhappy condition, that you are poor and blind and without clothing. 18 If you are wise you will get from me gold tested by fire, so that you may have true wealth; and white robes to put on, so that your shame may not be seen; and oil for your eyes, so that you may see. 19 To all those who are dear to me, I give sharp words and punishment: then with all your heart have sorrow for your evil ways. 20 See, I am waiting at the door and giving the sign; if my voice comes to any man's ears and he makes the door open, I will come in to him, and will take food with him and he with me. 21 To him who overcomes I will give a place with me on my high seat, even as I overcame, and am seated with my Father on his high seat. 22 He who has ears, let him give ear to what the Spirit says to the churches.