Man? G!d's perfect/best creation?

The more I look at man kind....homo sapiens.... idk how many species of man there have been...they say at least 8 walked the planet at the same time for a while...3 of those species are still present in our dna.

But seems opposing thumbs are our biggest advantage. Once we let octopus learn computers we will have some interesting challenges ... i mean if ants or bees or mushrooms were able to communicate with our electronics we would see what civilization could be!

But man? More faults than benefits for this planet.
 
Bloodshot said:
I think every other species on the planet would agree. With the possible exception of cats.
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Absolutely perfect and plausible response....

But with what we know....is that now an obvious biblical error...i mean if man is his premier acheivement....surely it aint this man on this planet....the bible must be referring to something else?
 
To be fair, nowhere does the Bible say this is the perfect or the best ...
 
wil said:
Granted I have an American Protestant upbringing ...
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I think you nailed it there ... the message owes more to ideology than theology.

The bible says each day of creation is "good", and that the whole of creation is "very good", but not that any individual part of it is better, or best, or ultimate ... so that's a case of ideological transference, I think.

From what I've read, the Orthodox Church in America is suffering a problematic phenomena (echoed in the Catholic Church), the emergence of the 'Orthobros' (I'm assuming a correspondence with 'Techbros') – "typically young male converts to Eastern Orthodox Christianity. Heavily rooted in online communities like Reddit and Twitter, the subculture blends zealous traditionalism with internet debate culture and manosphere aesthetics." (The Tablet, 7 September 2023)

It seems the 'traditional' denominations are attracting young men looking for "a more masculine" church – and that 'masculinity' is according to manosphere aesthetics of the SocMed channels. They're notable for their misogynistic 'trad-wife' sensibilities (shades of Ira Levin's "The Stepford Wives" and Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tale").

As ever, David Bentley Hart has a view on this – it's at 6.48 in his conversation with Rainn Wilson He is caustic as regarding American Evangelicals converting to Orthodoxy and bringing their narrow-minded values with them. At its worst, he opines, Americanism corrupts everything it touches.
 
Thomas said:
To be fair, nowhere does the Bible say this is the perfect or the best ...
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Philosophically, can there be a greatest good way to create the universe and life?

Could God create anything greater than children in his own image, likeness and nature?
Could God love all his children as he loves himself?

Could the creation of the universe and life hang and depend on the greatest commandments? Could there be any other single greater purpose for God to create the universe and life?
 
Oh, I agree with you!

I think human potential for goodness is Infinite, and in a myriad small and unnoticed ways we participate in the Divine Plenitude.

It's always the noisome ones who attract all the attention, who steal the oxygen from the room.

Humanity cannot begin to comprehend what the Father envisions for His creature, or his creation ...
 
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