Chalice said:I have several copies of the koran, all given to me by good muslim people who purchased them for me at their mosques - therefore I believe them to be reliable texts that represent the Korah in english.
I am a Christian. I sat down to read my Koran. It surprised me that some texts accuse Christians and Jews of talking behind the backs of Muslems about how bad their are, and then speaking to their faces nicely. I was also surprised that the Koran accuses jews and christians of having an alterior motive to convert muslims to their own faiths, as if this were a surprise - christianity and ancient judaism were both "evangelical" faiths since before Islam existed - the goal of monotheism is to get others to "join up" and know the One God in the "correct" way according to them.
I was also offended that the koran refers to jews and christians as "people of the book", and claims that we can not follow God's prophets correctly enough, which is why God is angry with us, and had to send another prophet to correct everything. There are portions of the koran that state that if the knowledge of the koran is rejected by jews and christians, eventually a muslim must realize that they will never convert anyway, and since their soul is lost, they have no value as people and it is ok to destroy them. The koran also has portions on "jihad" and I am sorry to tell you this, but in my koran, I understand the jihad text to be instruction on war attacks against those who do not accept Islam as their religion.
Of course, to be fair, I also sat down and read the old testament - it instructs the jews to march into pagan lands, take their land in the name of the Jewish God and destroy everything, even the goods. So maybe ancient religions just took over each other's land by war in the name of their deities. Christianity never teaches this in the New Testament - the war is inside each person, and the battle is between Satan and God over your soul. You only can choose who you want to be with. It is not political or public, it is personal, and private.
I found my english version of the koran gramatically clumsy, and I am not saying this to be mean. I have a degree in English/Brittish lit, and it does not read smoothly, because the translators, more than likely do not own English as their first language and are doing the best they can with a foreign language. When I read the koran, I want to just sit down to the computer and make the text more smooth and gracefull. I also wish I could take out the parts that teach muslims that it is ok to kill me because I am not muslim.
I have many muslim friends and I love them very much. I am "ok" that they are not Christians as I am. I wish that the koran would reflect this type of love toward me, because most of my muslim friends do - it is natural to live and let live, and to love others.
I am personally very afraid of what happened in London a few weeks back, with a tape of AlQeda coming on CNN and saying that there are more plans to blow up America and London. I hope that the muslim world never experiences western "cell" groups that no one can find, who enter their society as "friends", and then blow up innocent housewives who cart their many crying children to the grocery store for milk and diapers, or people who go to work so their children can have birthday gifts, or the mortgage can be paid.
I know the muslim people are good of heart - I only know "good" muslim people, and I love them. I would like to know if there are any muslims out there who would like to translate an "American" version of the Koran (as we have an "American Standard version " of the Bible - it would read smoothly and beautifully, and it would be much more gentle with the passages that "appear" to teach that ending lives of non-muslims is "ok". This would help alot and spread the peace that Islam is supposed to be.
The story of Abraham and his 2 wives, sarah and hagar teach that both families, Jews/Christians and Muslims should dwell in peace inside Abraham's tent, for God tells Hagar to go back to Abraham's tent with Ishmael and dwell there in peace. She can not because Sarah will not allow it, which is unfortunate. But I want to dwell in peace with the muslim world, and do not believe you are in exile from the Abrahamic family. Please let us live in peace and love. I do not know what christian leaders say, and I dont know what really happens with muslim leaders - but I do know what the koran teaches and says, and I do know that NY and London have been blown up. That is enough for me. Forget the leaders. we need a grass roots effort for peace, and we need to re-teach everyone love for one another, and re-translating the koran so that at least in English speaking countries, the Koran would be understood as a book that teaches muslims to love and tolerate non-muslims.
Chrsitianity isint all about pace too
Jesus didnt come with peace but with a sword , or something like that , what are you thoughts of the predictions and scientific evidense that theQu'Ran provide?