Brahman And The Oversoul

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  1. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    Here is the village idiot. Devas are various Gods, lesser Gods, and Devis are various Goddesses. Saguna Brahman can be seen in many forms and not just Brahma. It is Vishnu and Shiva too as well as many other Gods. Nirguna Brahman is just that, does not act, assumes no form. There are no angels and archangels in hinduism (Brahman's errand boys or girls, Wikipedia mentions a female angel also).
     
  2. AdvaitaZen

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    If we look beyond Hinduism though, Brahma is the creator God for which most are worshipful. Deva and Angel are only different in title, Angel means Messenger of God, and this is the role of all the Devas, to bring us into the divine knowing. Again, the mind wishes to separate, it wishes clear lines of delineation, even where there is none.

    What is also apparent is that all the Gods call themselves Lord, which is why I point to Shankara's explanation of Ishvara. I do not speak only of Hinduism, for me religion is one and man has decided they are separate because this appeals more to his ego. To ensure ourselves we are correct about our beliefs, we must ensure ourselves others are wrong. When we understand the ego, and when we transcend the ego, we realize all are partially correct and yet none fully capture truth.

    My basic point, however, is that whatsoever appears is not what we must seek. The Gods of Hinduism always have lives, wives and children, they are not greater than any of us. The only difference is that they are more aware of their true nature, but this is not much of a difference, it is only that we have forgotten it.

    Brahman is the goal, not anything that arises from That.
     
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    They are partial in that all they say points to truth.

    Words cannot capture truth though.

    Try this experiment: Have a friend draw a picture for you over the phone, describe something he has not seen but that you are looking at. Does his picture and your description actually match?

    They will not, for he has drawn what he perceived in your words.

    The same is true of all statements about the divine, the attempt to say falls short because language as such describes difference, separate things we encounter in reality. How can this language be used to describe the oneness that pervades it all?
     
  4. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    First let us discuss what 'divine' is.
     
  5. AdvaitaZen

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    I defined it in the thread titled "Truth" in belief and spirituality on page 8 (currently the most recent post in that thread)
     
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