Re: The real beginning? I would also like to ask how muslims view this passage in the Christian new testament concerning "Hagar" since the poster brought her up. There has been a lot of debate on this, but I have really never seen how Islam would interpret this. How does Hagar become Mt Sinai in Arabia as Paul does say it is "alleghorical". Mt Sinai is only mentioned 4 times in the NT and I really would like to discuss this with muslims if they are interested. Thanks and Peace to all. Steve Galatian 4:24 which things are symbolic/alleghory. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai [#4614 "thorny"] which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar -- 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children -- 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.