AletheiaRivers said:OK, now I'm going to have to go read the book. I thought I'd read most Dr. Seus, but I haven't read that one.
AletheiaRivers said:What or who would the polytheists that you know say created or emanated the "many Gods?" Do they even think about it? Where did those Gods come from?
Therapon said:The Gods are emanations of 'The One' and yes if you are like you say, influenced by Neoplatonism, you should know that we (Neoplatonists) do think about it
I also believe that polytheism is the true nature of religion and conversely anything else is false.
AletheiaRivers said:If the "gods" are emmanations of "The One," then ultimately, that is MONOtheistic, as the gods have a source, a first cause, a "creator."
That was my whole point.
And yet it's all ONE unified whole that always existed. Plurality in unity.bgruagach said:Not necessarily.
"First cause" and "creator" imply a beginning point. There is nothing inherent in the philosophy that the various gods and goddesses are different faces or aspects of a larger Divine that requires belief in a starting point. The Ultimate Divine could have always existed, and the various manifestations of that Divine could also be thought to have always existed and therefore have no starting point.
AletheiaRivers said:And yet it's all ONE unified whole that always existed. Plurality in unity.
Could we pretend that I only used the term "Source"?
bgruagach said:Just because we mortals are individual and see ourselves as distinct from other members of our species does not mean that the Divine has to be this way.
AletheiaRivers said:Actually I agree. Hence "plurality in unity," "Neoplatonic emmanationism," and "panenetheism."
Am I really being that unclear or are you guys just being difficult?
AletheiaRivers said:If the "gods" are emmanations of "The One," then ultimately, that is MONOtheistic, as the gods have a source, a first cause
bgruagach said:Some postulate that the essentially unknowable One is more of a collective than a singular individual. Just because we mortals are individual and see ourselves as distinct from other members of our species does not mean that the Divine has to be this way.
No, Neoplatonism = Idealistic Monism, which means the Source emmanates all realities.Therapon said:One ultimate cause is 'Monism' many Gods is 'Polytheism' Neoplatonism is 'Monistic-Polytheism'
AletheiaRivers said:I think much of the misunderstanding in this conversation comes from the way we are each defining "monotheism."
Therapon said:Well I apologise for being confrontational but the way you're defining Monotheism would appear to have more philosophical input than religious?
I agree you are a Monist, as am I but I'm most certainly not a Monotheist.
AletheiaRivers said:Hellenic polytheism eh? What led you down that path?