Abogado del Diablo said:Originally Posted by leastone
Pride is a terrible thing---it gets upset or angered so easily.
Indeed. Pride makes it very easy to become a whitewashed sepulchre, doesn't it?
A little bit. I think it also fits into what is sometimes referred to as mysticism. I've also looked at paganism perhaps more deeply than Native religion. It can be very complicated for a white person getting accepted into a Native community. Too much bad history. If my only options in life were a choice between fundamentalist Christianity and Native religion, I would check it out more seriously. However, those are not my only options. Thanks for the suggestion, though.Dondi said:This almost sounds Native American. Have you ever explored their traditions?
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Apologies. Didn't mean to speak for you. Just figured it was safe to say that none of us, as yet, is perfect. But I also figured that as Christians, we agreed that it was worth striving for the perfection that is found in and through Christ (see Ephesians 4:13). I guess that's what I get for figurin ...RubySera_Martin said:I didn't see this earlier. Just found the quote in someone else's post. Andrew, I have an extremely serious problem when one person declares what "each and every one of us" do or don't do. My problem is that you don't know ME well enough to make that kind of statement about me.
Whole churches tend to be built upon and maintained by one person's idea that "each and every one of us" always does whatever. Then I am disciplined for "straying" because the church believes no one can be true to God in the way I am living my life. I am accused of sin when in fact I am being true to what I was born to be, my calling, my spirituality, my relationship with God.
I think it is more honest and more accurate to state what I experience, or that many/most people are this or that way. By specifying that it is "each and every one of us" I think people overstep their rights. The fact of the matter is that most times when people make these sweeping statements about "each and every one of us" they are wrong. You are probably more correct than many I've heard. I still think I have a right to ask to be excluded from such statements.
I guess that's nit-picking but then, where does truth end and falsehood begin???
lunamoth said:I see no breach of the CoC at this time, but I would encourage everyone to proceed gently.
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leastone said:I did draw from accounts given in earlier posts to create a context that all could therefore identify with, but I made sure that it was expressed as generally as possible, and therefore carried no intention to embarrass anyone. My point was that the Lord is present in all our life encounters and that those very same experiences offer us growth opportunities, exactly by taking note of what our emotions are indicating to us about our spiritual condition, not about where others are at. That very same experience is also their opportunity for growth.
taijasi said:So when I first encountered these people, I didn't know what to do, what to expect, or how to handle them. I remember it was interesting at first, but I quickly discovered how attempting to actually converse with them or have any kind of meaningful discussion was at best, an exercise in futility, or more often, like banging one's head against a brick wall repeatedly and rather forcefully. I had to change strategies.
InLove said:Well, buenos suerte, everyone. I think I will go hang out in the lounge or something, and decide where I next want to explore.
I mean it when I say:
28. One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"
29. "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
30. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.'
31. The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."