Does God speak to you?

Discussion in 'Abrahamic Religions' started by iBrian, Nov 30, 2003.

  1. Nick the Pilot

    Nick the Pilot Well-Known Member

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    "ok well I hope you have a nice life too. I sincerely mean that and not as sarcasm."

    --> Thanks. I appreciate it.
     
  2. Thomas

    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    False analogy Wil.

    I like your insertion of the 'verified' get-out clause though, pretty well indicates where you're coming from.

    We've got no 'verified' eye witnesses to Julius Caesar, Cleopatra, Plato, Aristotle, you name it, we've got no 'verified' eye witnesses to my dad, if you decide for some reason to assume the witness I can produce is 'unreliable' or serving some agenda.

    That's the whole point, Wil.

    If we had the kind of empirical evidence you require, then we'd have no choice but believe, and then we'd have people bleating about being treated like kids.

    Maybe God is very clever by not boxing you into a corner, but allowing you the freedom to make your own choices ... to be human ... to be free.
     
  3. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    um...er...I was answering her analogy Thomas...

    Should I answer yours as well? Caesar? Which Caesar? Oh Julius? Seems we've got plenty of historical documentation of that reign.... Cleopatra? Which Cleopatra? oh the Seventh? again... records were kept before and after these leaders... Plato? Again he was involved with politics, philosophy to such an extent that there are records of his discussions and being places...

    Jesus on the other hand....well you know... and you also know I am not saying he didn't exist...I am simply saying we don't have the evidence....but as you also know this game has been played out many times...and the score is always the same....

    for some no evidence is enough, for others no evidence is enough...

    but as usual...others say it better than I...

    Socrates vs Jesus - FreeThoughtPedia
     
  4. Thomas

    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    But with a false analogy.

    You don't, to your satisfaction, but there is near unanimity among scholars that Jesus existed. I am well aware of your selective reading of the evidence.

    LOL. You said it.

    Sadly that essay is skewed.

    And you still miss the point.
     
  5. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    all essays are skewed....

    like news reports...

    when it comes to religion, politics, I'd love to see someone unbiased...without agenda...

    ain't seen it yet.
     
  6. Thomas

    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Not all, that's just your opinion.

    You should seek out good scholarship rather than popular sensationalism ... but it does make for dry reading.
     
  7. SatyamAbhidi

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    God "talking" is the expression of Om.
     
  8. SatyamAbhidi

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    The word was with God, and the word was God.

    It hadn't manifested yet.

    You are a particular syllable.

    Om is the first syllable.

    Binary, Seguna and Nirguna.

    1 and 0

    This text is the result of 1 and 0 being manipulated consciously.

    That is Shiva.
     
  9. SatyamAbhidi

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    Seguna is a fall from Nirguna.

    You have left the source.

    You are sinning.

    Come back, you're forgiven.

    Last longer this time.
     
  10. SatyamAbhidi

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    The infinite symbol of math is Shiva.

    No matter how logical you want to be, it isn't finite.

    You can't measure it.

    It is the measure, authority, judge, only that is conscious.

    God.

    Mahadevi.

    Great Divinity.

    Yoga is "how to become divine".

    You become conscious of reality.

    You understand.

    Resonance.

    Om

    Shanti.

    Namaste.
     
  11. SatyamAbhidi

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    Speech is sound... vibration.

    What is moving you?

    For most, stupid notions, judgement.

    Trying to make separate resonances.

    As a means to get closer to one or few.

    Wrong direction to heaven.

    That separation will cease, why bother?

    Die, yogi, die.

    The corpse without Shakti.

    Stillness, void.
     
  12. donnann

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    When god created the universe he used his voice...sound ...which has a vibration that is energy
     
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    The creation of the universe was more like a dance of light and formation brought on by sound
     
  14. Craz

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    God is the source from which everything that exists comes from. My own preference is to call it, the primordial energy(or truth).
    The way I do experience it is by meditation, or to be more exact, by turning my senses inward. The inner light, sounds, taste and feeling are just wonderful and give me the sense of a universal love and the desire to be with this love all the time.
     
  15. SatyamAbhidi

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    Light is the male aspect, consciousness.
    Sound is the female aspect, sound.

    Shiva is called the Lord of Om, the drummer.
    He is also called consciousness, the light, dancer.

    She is his desire.

    Why he dances... life, experience.

    Intimacy, all human endeavor shows something else.
    Another aspect of consciousness, another object of curiosity.

    Om namah Shivay.

    Namaste.
     
  16. SatyamAbhidi

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    Another name for Shiva is Truth, it is fine.

    Meditation is resting, the rest should be Yoga too.

    Adi Yogi is guiding your life.

    Bringing you to Yogeshvara.

    Yoga....
    Union.
    Om.

    Namaste.

    You are a string on his guitar.
     
  17. EdgyDolmen

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    Does god speak to me: I am of the opinion that god is and always has been a personal god. Satan is also personal. They each are within. It is our choice to choose which direction we take. So I suppose, in a manner of speaking, both god and satan speak to us all.
     
  18. wil

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    Welcome to the fray Edgy!
     
  19. EdgyDolmen

    EdgyDolmen Active Member

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    "Fray" seems appropriate. Thanks :)
     
  20. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    When you have various religious beliefs and understanding....

    sometimes feathers get ruffled...
     

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