Daily Wisdom Saying

Discussion in 'Eastern Religions and Philosophies' started by Vajradhara, Dec 2, 2003.

  1. pseudonymous

    pseudonymous Obtuse Kineticist

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    If the mountain is bullshit, it does not matter who is king.

    (An original by me that I used on students back in the day to get them to stop attachment to word, label and definition debates.)
     
  2. chakraman

    chakraman God save us from religion

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    "beware of the man who promises you a reward in this world or the next."

    "there are laws in some countries, i believe, that prohibit anyone from following you in the street and if someone does he can be arrested and put into prison. so personally, i wish there was a police system that would put people into a spiritual prison for following others. in fact it happens automatically."

    both j krishnamurti
     
  3. Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

    Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine Junior Moderator, Intro

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    "... If our children can live safely for one more day, it'll be worth one more day that we defend this island!"
    Tadamichi Kuribayashi, Letters from Iwo Jima (2006)

    Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
     
  4. Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

    Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine Junior Moderator, Intro

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    "Time heals what reason cannot." - Seneca (Roman philosopher)

    "The mystery of Love is greater than the mystery of Death." - Oscar Wilde

    "Courage is not the absence of fear, but the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
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    Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
     
  5. seattlegal

    seattlegal Why do cows say mu?

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    "Know thyself? If I knew myself, I'd run away."
    ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
     
  6. Snoopy

    Snoopy Active Member

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    It's just as I feared -
    I have come undone.
    - Neil Fallon.​
     
  7. Vajradhara

    Vajradhara One of Many

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    Your expectations do not define who i am.
     
  8. Snoopy

    Snoopy Active Member

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    Good one. :)
     
  9. Vajradhara

    Vajradhara One of Many

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    Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

    ~Janice Joplin
     
  10. Snoopy

    Snoopy Active Member

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    Eihei Dogen, Genjokoan.



    As all things are buddha-dharma, there is delusion and realization, practice, and birth and death, and there are buddhas and sentient beings.

    As the myriad things are without an abiding self, there is no delusion, no realization, no buddha, no sentient being, no birth and death.

    The buddha way is, basically, leaping clear of the many and the one; thus there are birth and death, delusion and realization, sentient beings and buddhas.

    Yet in attachment blossoms fall, and in aversion weeds spread.

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    To carry yourself forward and experience myriad things is delusion. That myriad things come forth and experience themselves is awakening.

    Those who have great realization of delusion are buddhas; those who are greatly deluded about realization are sentient beings. Further, there are those who continue realizing beyond realization, who are in delusion throughout delusion.

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    When buddhas are truly buddhas they do not necessarily notice that they are buddhas. However, they are actualized buddhas, who go on actualizing buddhas.

    When you see forms or hear sounds fully engaging body-and-mind, you grasp things directly. Unlike things and their reflections in the mirror, and unlike the moon and its reflection in the water, when one side is illumined the other side is dark.

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    To study the buddha way is to study the self. To study the self is to forget the self. To forget the self is to be actualized by myriad things. When actualized by myriad things, your body and mind as well as the bodies and minds of others drop away. No trace of realization remains, and this no-trace continues endlessly.

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    When you first seek dharma, you imagine you are far away from its environs. But dharma is already correctly transmitted; you are immediately your original self. When you ride in a boat and watch the shore, you might assume that the shore is moving. But when you keep your eyes closely on the boat, you can see that the boat moves. Similarly, if you examine myriad things with a confused body and mind you might suppose that your mind and nature are permanent. When you practice intimately and return to where you are, it will be clear that nothing at all has unchanging self.

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    Firewood becomes ash, and it does not become firewood again. Yet, do not suppose that the ash is future and the firewood past. You should understand that firewood abides in the phenomenal expression of firewood, which fully includes past and future and is independent of past and future. Ash abides in the phenomenal expression of ash, which fully includes future and past. Just as firewood does not become firewood again after it is ash, you do not return to birth after death.

    This being so, it is an established way in buddha-dharma to deny that birth turns into death. Accordingly, birth is understood as no-birth. It is an unshakable teaching in Buddha's discourse that death does not turn into birth. Accordingly, death is understood as no-death.

    Birth is an expression complete this moment. Death is an expression complete this moment. They are like winter and spring. You do not call winter the beginning of spring, nor summer the end of spring.

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    Enlightenment is like the moon reflected on the water. The moon does not get wet, nor is the water broken. Although its light is wide and great, the moon is reflected even in a puddle an inch wide. The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in dewdrops on the grass, or even in one drop of water.

    Enlightenment does not divide you, just as the moon does not break the water. You cannot hinder enlightenment, just as a drop of water does not hinder the moon in the sky.

    The depth of the drop is the height of the moon. Each reflection, however long or short its duration, manifests the vastness of the dewdrop, and realizes the limitlessness of the moonlight in the sky.

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    When dharma does not fill your whole body and mind, you think it is already sufficient. When dharma fills your body and mind, you understand that something is missing.

    For example, when you sail out in a boat to the middle of an ocean where no land is in sight, and view the four directions, the ocean looks circular, and does not look any other way. But the ocean is neither round or square; its features are infinite in variety. It is like a palace. It is like a jewel. It only look circular as far as you can see at that time. All things are like this.

    Though there are many features in the dusty world and the world beyond conditions, you see and understand only what your eye of practice can reach. In order to learn the nature of the myriad things, you must know that although they may look round or square, the other features of oceans and mountains are infinite in variety; whole worlds are there. It is so not only around you, but also directly beneath your feet, or in a drop of water.

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    A fish swims in the ocean, and no matter how far it swims there is no end to the water. A bird flies in the sky, and no matter how far it flies there is no end to the air. However, the fish and the bird have never left their elements. When their activity is large their field is large. When their need is small their field is small. Thus, each of them totally covers its full range, and each of them totally experiences its realm. If the bird leaves the air it will die at once. If the fish leaves the water it will die at once.

    Know that water is life and air is life. The bird is life and the fish is life. Life must be the bird and life must be the fish.

    It is possible to illustrate this with more analogies. Practice, enlightenment, and people are like this.

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    Now if a bird or a fish tries to reach the end of its element before moving in it, this bird or this fish will not find its way or its place. When you find your place where you are, practice occurs, actualizing the fundamental point. When you find you way at this moment, practice occurs, actualizing the fundamental point; for the place, the way, is neither large nor small, neither yours nor others'. The place, the way, has not carried over from the past and it is not merely arising now.

    Accordingly, in the practice-enlightenment of the buddha way, meeting one thing is mastering it--doing one practice is practicing completely.

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    Here is the place; here the way unfolds. The boundary of realization is not distinct, for the realization comes forth simultaneously with the mastery of buddha-dharma.

    Do not suppose that what you realize becomes your knowledge and is grasped by your consciousness. Although actualized immediately, the inconceivable may not be apparent. Its appearance is beyond your knowledge.

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    Zen master Baoche of Mt. Mayu was fanning himself. A monk approached and said, "Master, the nature of wind is permanent and there is no place it does not reach. When, then, do you fan yourself?"

    "Although you understand that the nature of the wind is permanent," Baoche replied, "you do not understand the meaning of its reaching everywhere."

    "What is the meaning of its reaching everywhere?" asked the monk again. The master just kept fanning himself. The monk bowed deeply.

    The actualization of the buddha-dharma, the vital path of its correct transmission, is like this. If you say that you do not need to fan yourself because the nature of wind is permanent and you can have wind without fanning, you will understand neither permanence nor the nature of wind. The nature of wind is permanent; because of that, the wind of the buddha's house brings for the gold of the earth and makes fragrant the cream of the long river.
     
  11. Vajradhara

    Vajradhara One of Many

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    thank you for posting that :)

    metta,

    ~v
     
  12. Snoopy

    Snoopy Active Member

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    You're welcome. :)

    I've noticed a typo, I hope there are no more. It should read 'brings forth the gold...' not 'brings for the gold...'

    Palms together.
     
  13. Snoopy

    Snoopy Active Member

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    What about fusion cooking?

     
  14. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    Alleyah,

    three questions, more leaning toward determing your existence than anything else.

    1. What religion would you say you follow?

    2. What country are you from?

    3. Is english a second language to you?
     
  15. seattlegal

    seattlegal Why do cows say mu?

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    found at this site:


    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Fasting of The Heart [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Yen Hui, the favorite disciple of Confucius, came to take leave of his Master.

    "Tell me," said Yen Hui, "what is fasting of the heart?"
    Confucius replied. "The goal of fasting is inner unity. This means hearing, but not with the ear; hearing, but not with the understanding; hearing with the spirit, with your whole being. The hearing that is only in the ears is one thing. The hearing of the understanding is another. But the hearing of the spirit is not limited to any one faculty, to the ear, or to the mind. Hence it demands the emptiness of all the faculties. And when the faculties are empty, then the whole being listens. There is then a direct grasp of what is right there before you that can never be heard with the ear or understood with the mind. Fasting of the heart empties the faculties, frees you from limitation and from preoccupation. Fasting of the heart begets unity and freedom."

    "I see," said Yen Hui. "What was standing in my way was my own self-awareness. If I can begin this fasting of the heart, self-awareness will vanish. Then I will be free from limitation and preoccupation! Is that what you mean?"

    "Yes," said Confucius, "that's it! If you can do this, you will be able to go among men in their world without upsetting them. You will not enter into conflict with their ideal image of themselves. If they will listen, sing them a song. If not, keep silent. Don't try to break down their door. Don't try out new medicines on them. Just be there among them, because there is nothing else for you to be but one of them. Then you may have success!
    It is easy to stand still and leave no trace, but it is hard to walk without touching the ground. If you follow human methods, you can get away with deception. In the way of Tao, no deception is possible.
    You know that one can fly with wings: you have not yet learned about flying without wings. You are familiar with the wisdom of those who know, but you have not yet learned the wisdom of those who know not.
    Look at this window: it is nothing but a hole in the wall, but because of it the whole room is full of light. So when the faculties are empty, the heart is full of light. Being full of light it becomes an influence by which others are secretly transformed."


    Excerpt from "The Way of Chuang Tzu"
    Interpreted by Thomas Merton



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  16. Vajradhara

    Vajradhara One of Many

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    soap box, house of cards and glass; don't go throwin' your stones around.
     
  17. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    Kinda like my son said "a piece of lead is for the ass trying to kill everyone else, and no one else." :eek::)

    v/r

    Q
     
  18. Vajradhara

    Vajradhara One of Many

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    i'm not defined by my mistakes.
     
  19. Snoopy

    Snoopy Active Member

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    Medicine is prescribed according to the illness, teaching is given according to situational applicability - how could there be any fixed doctrine?

    Hui-neng, Sixth Patriarch of Ch'an.
     
  20. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    Since I was on the East Coast when I thought of this one, does it count?

    Happy New Year! Last years layoffs, forclosures, economy left a lot of people pissed off. Now with next year folks worrying about it being the end of the world as we know it... I say last year was Urine and this year is Mayan!
     

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