The Arc of the Covenant

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  1. alexa

    alexa somewhere in time

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    Marietta, I read twice that article and no matter how hard I tried to understand it from a different perspective (as you seem to consider it), it still looks like a science fiction text to me.

    What's your point ? What you really want to discuss about the Arc of the convenant ?
     
  2. Marietta

    Marietta New Member

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    Greetings Alexa, Thank you for the response.
    The point is that the ark of the Covenant was a big gold box containing portal opening tools. Which explains why according to the Bible it had to be handled so carefully. It had to be carried with special wood pools to protect those carrying the Ark from dying from the radiation. The bible says that anybody who touched the box died. The bible makes it sound like this big mean god was very petty and killed anybody who touched his box. I don't see it that way at all.
    I guess the point is that God is not petty and does not go around killing people who don't follow his rules. Those who touched the Ark died because of the radiation and the warning not to touch the box was to protect them. Although I didn't really have a point when I posted this message except to share some information.
    Love and Light, Marietta
     
  3. bgruagach

    bgruagach eclectic Wiccan

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    Interesting theory. One major problem with it though is that radiation is not like poison -- you can be affected by it without having to actually touch a radioactive item. Being near it is enough to be affected.

    Light is a form of radiation; it can give us a sunburn without us actually touching the surface of the sun.
     
  4. Marietta

    Marietta New Member

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    Greetings bgruagach, Thank you for the response.
    You are merely speaking of one of many forms of radiation. Some radiation is deadly. To give you and example here is what Wikipedia says about Radiation.
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    Radiation in Physics is the process of emitting energy in the form of waves or particles. Various types of radiation may be distinguished, depending on the properties of the emitted energy/matter, the type of the emission source, properties and purposes of the emission, etc. When used by the general public, the word "radiation" commonly refers to ionizing radiation.
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    Love and Light, Marietta :)


    You wrote:
    Interesting theory. One major problem with it though is that radiation is not like poison -- you can be affected by it without having to actually touch a radioactive item. Being near it is enough to be affected.

    Light is a form of radiation; it can give us a sunburn without us actually touching the surface of the sun.
     
  5. bgruagach

    bgruagach eclectic Wiccan

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    I still have a hard time understanding how something that is radioactive and as dangerous as you claim would only hurt people who touched it.

    If the items in the Ark were radioactive, wooden poles for carrying the Ark would certainly not protect a person from the radiation. The Ark itself would have to be the radiation shield which would mean that touching the Ark wouldn't hurt a person.
     
  6. Marietta

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    Wood does not act as a conduit for radio active energy to pass through. It act as a buffer.
    Love and Light, Marietta
     
  7. flowperson

    flowperson Oannes

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    Hello marietta and bgruagach:

    A few points if I may. First let's differentiate between "arc" and "ark".
    "Ark" in its simplest and most prevalent usage in the OT only means "box". Admittedly, the ark of the covenant was a very special box. It contained some very sacred items if Genesis is to be believed. If I am not mistaken it contained fragments of the tablets of the law received by Moses from G-d and then were broken into pieces when Moses hurled them to the ground when he came upon scenes of transgressions by his people. The ark was also supposed to have contained a perpetually flowering almond branch, and an omer of manna...the whitish substance that descended from heaven overnight and could be made into flatbread and eaten for sustenance by the Hebrew tribe when nothing else was available in the wilderness.

    The ark may have also been some sort of a primitive quantum computing and communications device, but apparently only had receiving capabilities. The rituals performed annually by the King of the Hebrews and the high priest point to this because of the light rituals they performed with it. Once a year they were allowed to ask questions of the ark which represented G-d's virtual presence, and then received answers in the form of light emanations from the ark which spelled out G-d's answers when interpreted with the ephod, the urim, and the thummim. Actually the form and construction of the ark, a specifically designed acacia wood box covered with gold sheeting and gold ornamentation, is a reasonable description of how one would build a sizeable capacitor, which is a device which receives and stores energy and can be manipulated to discharge the energies when necessary and appropriate.

    The poles were to keep the carriers and users of the ark from accidently coming into contact with the gold conductive surfaces of the box. If the ark received a charging of energies over time, great caution would have to be taken so as to not ground the device and inappropriately discharge the energies. An analogy would be to grab a live wire while standing barefooted in a puddle. This would mean instant death if the accumulated voltage and amperage levels were sufficient. Such lethal energies can be transmitted and received through the air as Nicola Tesla demonstrated in many experiments during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. Energy transmissions through earth materials is also well known and has been utilized in a large part in our cell phone systems the past twenty years or so.

    An "arc" could be defined as an open-ended curve, usually a parabola or a hyperbola. A spheroid circular segment would not qualify here because mathematically, it defines a closed system. Calculations of travel through space often employs calculations of trajectories which encompass the descriptions of parabolic or hyperbolic arcs. Theoretically these sorts of curves have no beginning or no end, but yet may be used to define the travel of energies or objects through time and space. The gateway arch in St. Louis would be a good example.

    flow....:cool:
     
  8. Marietta

    Marietta New Member

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    Hello Flow, Thank you for the reply. Some good information.

    The Hebrew word for ark was not translated it was transliterated and can be spelled with either a K or a C. When you translate something you take a word from one language and apply the meaning using words of another language. When you transliterate a word you simply take the letters from the one language and match the sound up with the corresponding sound of a letter in another languages alphabet. However both ark and arc apply here. One is the big gold box which held the rod and the staff and the other is the frequency/arc that the used to open dimensional portals.
    The bible account as we have it says that the ark contains the two tablets of the law, Aaron's rod that budded, and a pot of manna. The Ark according to the bible had both receiving and transmitting capabilities since the presence of the energy manifested on the mercy seat and questions were received as well as answers given. The high priest had to go through all kinds of so called ritual bathing at the laver as well as applying special oils. He wore bells and pomegranates around the bottom of his robe. The reason for this was because if he missed even one act of purification he would die. The helpers outside the Holy of Holies would listen to the noise of the bells and pomegranates around the him of his robe and if they stopped they knew that he had died. Due to the fact that only the high priest could enter the Holy of Holies and then only after all the necessary preparation he had a rope around his leg that let to the inner court. If he died they pulled the body out by this rope. The ark acted like an inter-dimensional radio receiver/transmitter.
    As to the meaning of an arc. The fibonacci spiral (or the fib of no Chi) is an imperfect spiral which the mathematics have shown. The correct spiral is called the Crystal spiral and the mathematics are perfect. The fibonacci spiral sucks energy where the Crystal spiral has a perfect balance of breathing inward and outward allowing for a perfect balance of an exchange of energy. All of nature at the present has reversals running through which is why we die. Death is not a natural state and is caused by Molecular compaction. The crystal spiral will anchor here by the first of the year.

    Love and Light, Marietta
     
  9. flowperson

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    Marietta:

    I didn't know about the rope bit, but it makes sense. The fibonacci spiral also makes sense since the mathematical sequences defining the form are found everywhere in nature. I'm unclear on the crystal spiral concept...especially with regard to its arriving the first of next year. Could you elaborate on this ?

    Also the compunction with cleanliness makes sense. It reminds me of how "clean rooms" must be utilized when dealing with scientifically or technologically complex devices and systems, whether animate or inanimate. My intuition tells me this has to do with quantum gateways of some sort both in the "ark" stories and in modern applications. Dirt sullies the quality of the results in both instances. This also defines the standards which determined that the altar of sacrifice had to be placed in the courtyard of the tabernacle/temple. Rituals so clearly connected with death should certainly have not been placed in close proximity to the source(s) of life and sacred knowledge.

    flow....:)
     
  10. bgruagach

    bgruagach eclectic Wiccan

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    I still don't think it's been explained how wooden handles makes any difference if the Ar(k/c) of the Covenant contained radioactive material.

    You don't have to touch a radioactive item, or something touching it, in order for the radiation to be transmitted. It's not like electricity! Standing nearby is enough to be affected.

    When an atomic bomb goes off a wooden wall will not protect you from radiation. A thick lead wall on the other hand is dense enough to do the job.

    Another example is how dentists put a lead apron over vulnerable parts of your body, and then will step out of the room (which is shielded) when they take dental x-rays. The danger is being close enough to the unshielded radioactive source and has nothing to do with touching it or metal items that might be touching it.

    Flow's explanation of the Ark sounds much more reasonable to me and requires far fewer unverified assumptions to believe.
     
  11. Marietta

    Marietta New Member

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    Hello bgruagach, I am guessing that the brest plate and rob worn along with the oil put on the body of the high priest were all forms of protection against the radiation. The wood was protection from the electrical current flowing throught the box.

    Love and Light, Marietta
     
  12. alexa

    alexa somewhere in time

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    I don't believe in radiation theory either. Where did this theory of radiation come from anyway ?
     
  13. juantoo3

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    Alexa!!! What a pleasant surprize to see you back!!!
     
  14. alexa

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    Hello Juan ! It's good to be back. Everything all right in Florida ? :)
     
  15. juantoo3

    juantoo3 ʎʇıɹoɥʇnɐ uoıʇsǝnb

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    Yes, as well as can be hoped for. A busy hurricane season turned into a dud, (which is a very good thing for us). And I was recently married to a lovely woman from China. So life is wonderful for me at the moment.

    How is everything for you in Canada? I imagine it's getting a little chilly about now.
     
  16. bananabrain

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    i've never heard so much arse in all my born days. the hebrew word for "ark" does not even contain a K or a C or a Q or anything such. the word is "ARON" - which means a "cupboard" or "chest"; there may be other meanings which i haven't loooked up, but basically this whole line of argument is complete nonsense.

    b'shalom

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  17. flowperson

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    BB:

    While you are the mod and are entitled to your opinion as to what is nonsense and what is not, some of us are simply open to exploring new information and sharing possible answers. That's what forums are for if I'm not mistaken.

    Now, while I am not steeped in the Judaic heritage to any great extent, I do consider myself a believer, even though I have a fairly strong background in science and technology. This whole thing of the "chest" covered in gold and constructed according to detailed instructions, secret communications between the high priest and G-d using light emanations from the "chest" in the holy of holies is IMO matters that are ripe for questioning and answering. That's all that is going on here...and moderator or not, I do not believe that it is nonsense to engage in such discussions. And if others are willing to, I plan to participate.

    Thank you for your opinion and concern.

    flow....;)
     
  18. Dor

    Dor Bible Thumper

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    :D:D:Dclaps:D:D:D
     
  19. Thomas

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    The ark acted like an inter-dimensional radio receiver/transmitter

    Why is the New Ager so obsessed with technology? receivers, transmitters, radiation? It is also stated in Oral Tradition that the porters of the Ark would fly through the air - so perhaps it was driven by some kind of nuclear impulse engine - a helicopter seems rather mundane?

    I'm sorry Marietta, but again - why the emphasis on technology, on the material - why the emphasis on machines? Have your sources no sense of symbolism? No sense of metaphysics?

    Thomas
    (ps - when the High Priest entered the Holy of Holies he was naked.)
     
  20. flowperson

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    Gee Dor...only six smiling claps ? Why not four, or maybe even seven ?

    Thomas...why are you so threatened by interpreting ancient stories in the light of what has been discovered in the interim about the universe that we really live in ? Also, I believe that, at least in my case, a "new age" label does not describe who or what I am. I am only an explorer trying to understand the place where I live and attempt to "be". I can only do that by interpreting old stories in the light of modern knowledge. And, after all, this is the alternative forum...hmmmm ? IMO, this is a perfect example of why "labelling" someone, or a group of individuals according to what they believe is such a corrosive thing in society.

    I did like your ps re: the priest being naked. Clothing would carry all sorts of organic contaminants. If quantum portals were being manipulated through the use of the gold covered "chest" in the holy of holies great precautions had to be taken not to accidentally cross-contaminate the local and non-local portals. This wasn't the movies like Stargate...this was assumedly the "real Thing".



    flow....;)
     

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