moseslmpg Well, the fact that you are asking people to use scripture to argue kind of limits your answers. And you seem to have already made up your mind anyway. Yes, I am convinced. But, I'm not so aragant to believe something just because I like it. I have my beliefs on this subject in a flux and is waiting to hear a good argument for freewill. That said, when speaking on God's words, nothing but scripture will suffice. We can only argue scripture alone and nothing else. The fact that people choose sin, and also can choose to accept or reject Jesus is as much proof as one should need for free will in the context of salvation. In general though, there has to be free will or else there is no point in even creating humans. Every human chooses sin and has a free will to choose what he/she desiers. Some of you assume that the natural man chooses Christ over sin's pleasure. I disagree. I'd like to know where scripture says or shows in anyway that the natural man/unregenerated man/woman chooses God. I have shown enough that shows that none cant come until the Father draws them and that none even want to come because NONE seek. All that said, man dont accept Jesus. Jesus is King of kings and He has to accept us! Our job is to humble ourselves and recieve Him. We have to learn to clean up our "church talk" so that the unsaved can know how Big our God is, you know?