differences among five Buddhism types?

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Hello, I hope some of you can help me. I'm researching various kinds of Buddhism and trying to distinguish some specifics among these five:
  1. Theravada
  2. Tibetan
  3. Vajrayana
  4. Zen
  5. Nichiren
If I could wave a magic wand and create a table that included all of those, I'd want to address the following for each column:
  • the core, distinguishing features, central philosophy, key concepts & practices (do each of the five have a different focus?);
  • the most important goals for followers (are all five unique in what they wish to achieve?);
  • does each place an emphasis on honoring a specific Buddha or group of Buddhas? (I see Theravada has 28). If so, which are they?
  • are there key texts specific to each?
  • what does each believe happens after death?
  • are there any particularly unique characteristics of practice for each?
  • what about certain activities or pursuits?
  • what are tools of practice for each (e.g. singing bowl, altar).
I am actually trying to create this table. Can you help? Or are there any good resources out there that specifically lay out the differences? Any books that lay it all out? Or online sources that really get down to the nitty gritty details of the parallel differences?

Thank you so much,
Sus.
 
Hi,

Welcome to CR. Rather than a six foot long posting these two links should be of some help I think:

Schools of Buddhism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BuddhaNet - Worldwide Buddhist Information and Education Network

The two major “divisions” are the Theravada and the Mahayana. Vajrayana is viewed as a part of the Mahayana or as the third major “vehicle” of the Buddha’s teaching. Vajrayana can be subdivided into Tibetan and Shingon. Zen and Nichiren are both schools within the Mahayana.

Snoopy.
 
PS

I think this might be quite a large table that you're trying to create!

s.
 
Hi bluewater :)

Welcome to CR.

I am also researching Buddhism. Snoopy speaks the truth. It is indeed a broad area!

I am enjoying my studies.

InPeace,
InLove
 
Bluewater,

Here is a post I wrote at the Buddhist Forum. It is a passage adapted from a book on Buddhism, "Turning the Wheel" by Sandy Boucher, giving a basic explanation of Buddhist thought, and an outline of some of the major Buddhist denominations.

My post is post number four (the long post). Here is a link to the post:
E-sangha, Buddhist Forum and Buddhism Forum -> Help?

(I use the username Skywalker over there.)

I divide Buddhism into these areas.

Pureland
Zen
Tibetan
Theravadan
Nichiren
Japanese Esoteric (Shingon, Tendai, etc.)

I find these divisions to more workable, although your classification of Vajrayana works well too. As I stated in that post, some people draw distinctions between Mahayana and Vajrayana, and something else called Dzogchen. (Other people, as you can see, call them all by the name Mahayana.) I find Pureland, Zen, and Nichiren so completely different, I do not group them together in any one classification.

I believe there are more Pureland Buddhists in the world than all other types combined, so I am surprised to see it missing from your list.

As Snoopy as indicated, the answers to all of your questions would fill volumes. If you go the Buddhist Forum, you will find each tradition has its own section. These different sections are the best place to get abbreviated answers to your questions.

~~~

Please read my post over there and tell me what you think.
 
Namaste Bluewater,

thank you for the post and welcome to the forum.

Hello, I hope some of you can help me. I'm researching various kinds of Buddhism and trying to distinguish some specifics among these five:
  1. Theravada
  2. Tibetan
  3. Vajrayana
  4. Zen
  5. Nichiren

this list is somewhat problematic as you have two Vehicles listed, two schools listed and a culture :)

The link to the Buddha Net is quite excellent, here's one to a listing of the various Mahayana and Theravedan countries:
The Buddhist World: Monastics, Pilgrimage, Holy Site, Theravada, Mahayana Countries

Buddha Dharma has several different classification systems depending on which aspects we are speaking of. broadly speaking, Buddhism is divided into Vehicles. these Vehicles are called Hinyana, Mahayana and Vajrayana. modern times only has one school of Hinyana practice, Theraveda and, as such, the entire Vehicle is often called after this one school.

within the auspices of the Mahayana, we find schools like Zen and Nichiren. Zen and Nichiren are somewhat similar in that they were reform efforts in Japan to the existing Ch'an Buddhism which had been brought from China. in practice, however, they have little in common.

Tibetan Buddhism falls under the auspices of the Vajrayana Vehicle and Vajrayana has several schools such as Nyingma or Shingon in Japan. the Vajrayana is found primarily in Tibet, Mongolia, Nepal, Bhutan, Korea and Japan.

here's a link to a post that i've done on Buddhist philosophical schools:
http://www.comparative-religion.com/forum/buddhist-philosophy-719.html

I'll excerpt a bit here:

Buddhist philosophical views are classified, at least by Tibetan Buddhists in general, into four main categories: Vaibhasika, Sautrantika, Yogachara, and Madhyamika.

1. Vaibhasika has been called "direct realism." It is similar to the first few of the Indian views that see the World of Experience as composed of various physical elements that interact with the components of beings.

2. Sautrantika considers that awareness is merely representational. These first two schools consider that there are two kinds of interactors: Physical aspects, ie. skandhas of which one, rupa comprises the traditional elements, and the Mental aspects including consciousness (vijnana), sensation (vedana) which contributes to pain/pleasure, cognition (sanjna) and the impressions derived from experience (samskara.). The 12 Links of Causality go into this in more detail.

3. Chittamatra/Yogachara sometimes referred to as the Knowledge Way or Vijnanavada. It has also been called Subjective Realism, acknowledging that individual factors including karma contribute to an experience of reality that must be different for every being. It mentions the idea of "Buddha nature." Vasubandha and Asanga finally adopted this position.

4. Madhyamika basically holds that there is no ultimate reality in the sense that something exists apart from the experiencer, but that this does not mean that there is nothing at all. It turns around the definition of Shunyata and therefore has been called Sunyatavada. Nagarjuna and Aryadeva are the main proponents. Chandrakirti expounds upon Nagarjuna.

I would encourage you to look through the history of the posts as it would appear that most of your queries have been asked at one point or another. I'm not putting you off, of course, just trying to help you gleen the information that you seek.

metta,

~v
 
  1. Theravada... "old buddhism", "the knowledge of the elders", first buddhist texts were written down by these guys, and comes about because buddhism was taken to the south by an Indian yogi called bodhidharma, theravadins follow a path which relies on samatha meditation or cessation meditation, they dont do visualisations apart from the cemetary contemplations, they are big on the jhanas, and their goal is self realisation... they read a lot of books of sutras, or texts, and they tend to learn them off by heart... if u meet a theravada who says he's being doing it for years in a monestary in Thailand and he can't recite several sutras off by heart he's a con man... there are between 16-18 different schools/lineages within theravada buddhism...
Tibetan aka- vajrayana, which means diamond vehicle, king asoka made buddhism compulsory in tibet, their path is quite guru focused and involves a lot of tantra, aka visualisation exersises, and they like lineages and rituals... they have a lot of higher deities who are not buddha and they offer prayers etc to them... this verasion of buddhism has been influenced by Bon, the native tibetan religion, which was a kind of esoteric hinduism... there are five original buddhist tibetan lineages/schools...
  1. Vajrayana- see above...
Zen is Japanese mahayana buddhism, again, like the tibetan it has a lot of higher deities which are not buddha to pray to, it has been influenced by Shinto religion... they don't go in for the visualisations of the tibetans, but they like heirarchies and rituals too... meditation, or zazen, is usually the order of the day, there are two main branches of zen, soto, and another one who's title escapes me, soto is harder, the other one is a bit softer...
  1. Nichiren
nirichen is a kinda zen buddhism and hasn't been around for that long... howebver, there have been many reports that this organisation is a cult, and wants its followers to give them all their money... this might be true... they mainly rely on meditation and chanting,

they are all pretty much the same... the main texts u'll find if u look for them!
 
Zen is Japanese mahayana buddhism, again, like the tibetan it has a lot of higher deities which are not buddha to pray to, it has been influenced by Shinto religion... they don't go in for the visualisations of the tibetans, but they like heirarchies and rituals too... meditation, or zazen, is usually the order of the day, there are two main branches of zen, soto, and another one who's title escapes me, soto is harder, the other one is a bit softer...

Hi,

The three schools of Zen in Japan are Soto, Rinzai and Obaku. What do you mean about harder and softer?



  1. Nichiren
nirichen is a kinda zen buddhism and hasn't been around for that long... howebver, there have been many reports that this organisation is a cult, and wants its followers to give them all their money... this might be true... they mainly rely on meditation and chanting,


Nichiren Buddhism is based on the teachings of the 13th Century Japanese monk Nichiren, who was reacting against other schools of Buddhism such as Zen and Pure Land.


I imagine bluewater is having second thoughts about this table by now…!

s.
 
what I meant, snoopy, was...

zen is japanese mahayana buddhism influenced by shintoism... and there's too main branches of zen- soto, and rinzai, yes, hardly anyone else has heard about the other one... when I said hard and soft, what I meant was-

zen is about zazen, the sitting, whilst rinzai is more about the koan, or at least, that is how it is conventionally packaged...

to me, this makes one more "soft" than another... for me, sitting on a cushion and looking at the wall is hard and cold, whereas, to ponder a koan, and reach satori!

yes, its simplistic, but bluewater wasn't asking for anything too complicated, I dont think...

yes, nichiren shoshu was a 12/13th century buddhist monk, who suggested that we should get back to the buddha's original teachings...

however, in the UK in the 1970's/'80's/early '90's those Nichiren heads involved with soka gakka where skanking money from peeps and being rude boys... so there u go...

there's me besmirching the precious jewels again...

gate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi svaha..
 
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