Discussion in 'Politics and Society' started by Pathless, Mar 7, 2007.
Well this is the politics thread
Actually you dont know anything about me.. but its ok if you think you do.
This life is vapor compared to eternity... what is 75 years on this earth compared to ETERNITY. No.. none of this matters.
So people keep blaming all the worlds problems on George Bush and the republican party... Go ahead. Easier to do that than to blame the real source.. if you did that you might have to agree with someone like me.... How horrible!!!
It does matter. Pull your head out of your ass.
Pardon, that's ugly. But so is your attitude.
Let us, brothers and sisters, think on these things:
Who Would Jesus Bomb?
Is God an American?
Are foreigners less human than Americans?
Is George Bush really a man of God? Whose God? What God? Where the hell is the rest of humanity's God?
I replied to your stated position. And I think mine is clear to you. I can approach death with a clear conscience knowing I have never ever supported a mass murderer.
And, to get us off this digression, in a way, let's have some more actual political quotes, rather than this dichotmous bickering. We all know how war ends, anyway, if it does.
Here's a bumper sticker I saw yesterday:
READ 1984Wish I could find an actual picture of it on the net, but oh well. I did find this link which has a bunch of great stickers pictured. I like the one that says, "May the fetus you save be gay." HA!!!
And what was Saddam Hussein?? Get over yourself..
The best car sticker I ever saw was on the back of a Morris Minor. In very small print it said "DIE FORD SCUM"
I don't understand the point you are trying to make. Is it that because I don't support the "War on Terror" and because I don't support our current president's policies in Iraq, I must--logically, of course--have been a supporter of Saddam Hussein?
That is not the case. Once again, dichotomous thinking: either/or; either with us or against us.
I don't support war, I don't support terror. I advocate for peace. It's so much more fun than bombs, fear, and men and women who cannot let a grudge go.
I am over myself.
EDIT: Ooops, it looks like I took one for the team. I think the "Get over yourself" barb was directed at Tao.
lol some good ones there.
Dubya Dubya Dubya
Dot Liar Dot Con
Our Next President Should Be Fluent In At Least One Language
"Awakening to love can happen only as we let go of our obsession with power and domination. Culturally, all spheres of American life--politics, religion, the workplace, domestic households, intimate relations--should and could have as their foundation a love ethic. The underlying values of a culture and its ethics shape and inform the way we speak and act. A love ethic presupposes that everyone has the right to be free, to live fully and well. To bring a love ethic to every dimension of our lives, our society would need to embrace change. At the end of The Art of Loving, Erich Fromm affirms that 'important and radical changes are necessary, if love is to become a social and not a highly individualistic, marginal phenomenon.' Individuals who choose to love can and do alter our lives in ways that honor the primacy of a love ethic. We do this by choosing to work with individuals we admire and respect; by committing to give our all to relationships; by embracing a global vision wherein we see our lives and our fate as intimately connected to those of everyone else on the planet."
--bell hooks, in All About Love
It will take time to restore Chaos
Make America what we want it to be — a literate country and a hopefuller country
It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it.
We are getting more and more imports from abroad
great quote, Tao
from any great leader we know?
An ex-CIA stooge who got sick of his puppet strings.
And Osama? An active CIA stooge still on the payroll.
There are NONE so BLIND as those that will not see.
"For finally, we are as we love. It is love that measures our stature. There is no smaller package in the world than that of a person all wrapped up in himself."
--Reverend William Sloane Coffin
American social justice activist (1924-)
"The ache for home lives in all of us, the safe place where we can go as we are and not be questioned."
American poet (192
"The opposite of war isn't peace ... it's creation."
--from Rent by Jonathan Larson
"The vast majority of human beings dislike and even dread all notions with which they are not familiar. Hence it comes about that at their first appearance innovators have always been derided as fools and madmen."
English author and poet (1894-1963)
"If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put foundations under them."
--Henry David Thoreau
American author, poet and philosopher (1817-1862)
"No race can prosper till it learns there is as much dignity in tilling a field as in writing a poem."
--Booker T. Washington
American educator; foremost black educator of his time (1856-1915)
"My definition of a free society is a society where it is safe to be unpopular."
American politician; presidential candidate and ambassador to the United Nations (1900-1965)
"Seven blunders of the world that lead to violence: wealth without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without morality, science without humanity, worship without sacrifice, politics without principle."
Indian mahatma, non-violent activist (1869-1948)
"It is a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps."
--Martin Luther King, Jr.
American civil rights leader and Baptist minister (1929-1968)
"Freedom is not something that anybody can be given; freedom is something people take and people are as free as they want to be."
American author (1924-1987)
"No man has a right in America to treat any other man tolerantly, for tolerance is the assumption of superiority."
American politician; presidential candidate; special international representative for President Roosevelt (1892-1944)
"I cannot and will not cut my conscience to fit this year's fashions."
American playwright and memoirist (1905-1984)
"No person is your friend who demands your silence or denies your right to grow."
American writer (1944-)
"You don't have a pronoun for me yet."
American Transgender activist and author
"To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting."
American poet (1894-1962)
No matter what happens now, be hopeful as you share your thoughts. If you can overcome your fear of dreaming out loud, you may be quite wonderfully surprised with the response that you receive.
--from a daily internet horoscope for Gemini, for today
The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order, and in the assertion that, without Authority, there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that Anarchy can be instituted by a revolution. But it will be instituted only by there being more and more people who do not require the protection of governmental power ... There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man.
"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence..."
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