Sea of Reeds vs. Red Sea

Discussion in 'Judaism' started by wil, Apr 9, 2007.

  1. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    I'm sure Flowperson will appreciate the sentiment when you meet him/her on the other side. That gentle soul is no longer with us...

    v/r

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  2. bob x

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    The site has been known since the 19th century.
    American sources show a president Roosevelt? who was stabbed to death in the Forum on the Ides of March, followed by his son Charlemagne, and then there was Alexander the Great, who started the War Between the States during which the Crusaders sank the Spanish Armada...
     
  3. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    Professor Bob?... None of that made sense...?
     
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    I was commenting on Amergin's hashing together of random Egyptian names and events from thousands of years apart.
     
  5. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    Oh....kay, I am stepping out of this one...:eek:
     
  6. pohaikawahine

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    bananabrain wrote "the word "hebrew" is from abraham's title "Ha-'IBhRI" which means, alternatively "the crosser" or, as some would have it "the contrarian" - or even "the transgressor". that title goes back to his departure from ur to haran, where he "crossed the river", as it says of his family the Torah "your ancestors lived beyond the river" (meaning the euphrates). but i guess the whole of the children of israel really became "ivrim" at the crossing of the "reed sea" or whatever you want to call it. where it is isn't all that important, if you ask me."

    I'm very drawn to the concept of "crossing over" or "the crosser" because
    that is ultimately what we must do (in my opinion _ I don't want to come across as dogmagtic) through meditation and deep prayer to go to that place where we meet g-d face-to-face. Whether we cross over the river styx or cross over the parting sea, it is the same symbol. All myths and legends and our stories have four levels of meaning - it is the deepest and most sacred where we seek to awaken our souls. The chosen ones have the knowledge to lead the way. If we stop looking at how we are different and begin to look at how we are the same, maybe some of the walls that divide us will fall away. Yes, our ancestors live beyond the river and we must cross over to meet them.

    In "The Secrets of the Future Temple" by Rabbi Moshe Chaim Luzzatto it is stated "The plan of creation is that G-d should be revealed to all His creatures on all levels. Moses' greatness lay in his power to rise to the highest levels of prophecy ever achieved and b ring his vision "down" so as to make it accessible to people on far lower levels. Thus Moses brought the Children of Israel to a state where "at the crossing of the Red Sea a simple maid saw more than Ezekiel", while at the Giving of the Torah at Sinai, G'd "opened up" all seven heavens to the Children of Israel (Mechilta on Exodus 15:2 and 19:11). The "soul" of the Torah revealed at Sinai was the prophetic visions of the inner workings of the universe together with the prayer-power it gives to those who attain it.

    In other words (my thoughts) those that "cross over".

    he hawai'i au, poh
     

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